Nodal Analysis with power supplied to capacitor

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The discussion focuses on solving a circuit problem involving a capacitor and inductor with given resistances and voltage. Initial attempts to use nodal analysis resulted in incorrect values for the capacitor voltage and inductor current. Participants emphasize the importance of understanding the behavior of capacitors and inductors under steady-state DC conditions, noting that one behaves like an open circuit while the other acts as a short circuit. Suggestions include simplifying the circuit to a purely resistive network and using standard analysis techniques, such as finding the equivalent resistance and applying the current divider rule. Clarification on the approach and specific calculations is encouraged for accurate results.
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Homework Statement



Following circuit has v=30v, r1=20ohm,r2=10ohm,r3=15ohm. A)Determine inductor current (I) and capacitor voltage (Vc). B)Determine power supplied by source before switch is open.

Homework Equations


KCL
P=VI

The Attempt at a Solution


I attempted to treat the load plus the capacitor as one node (v3=vc). From there I took V1 to be 30v. I set up two KCL equations and solved for V2 and v3. I got Vc=7.5 v and I=1.5 A. Then for part b, I used P=VI and got 11.25 watts. I just wanted to know of this answer is correct or not. Thanks
 

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No, your results are not correct. Not sure what "I attempted to treat the load plus the capacitor as one node" means.
 
lewando said:
No, your results are not correct. Not sure what "I attempted to treat the load plus the capacitor as one node" means.

I assumed that there was no load resistance so the voltage remained the same throughout it.
 
Everything on the RHS of the switch is the "load resistance". Do you recall what a capacitor looks like at steady-state with a DC voltage applied? How about an inductor at steady-state with a DC current going through it?
 
Vc=30v right? how would I find the inductor current?
 
Not right. What method or equations did you use to arrive at that wrong answer.
 
lewando said:
Not right. What method or equations did you use to arrive at that wrong answer.

Ive been using several techniques and I don't think any are right. Would finding Req to find the total current be helpful? then use current divider rule to find IL? Can someone please tell me the approach to solve this, it would be very appreciated.
 
It is easier for us to help if you communicate the specifics of the work that you are doing, otherwise it’s hard to know where exactly your thought process is breaking down.

Maybe you missed my question regarding how you are treating capacitors and inductors under steady-state DC conditions. This question still stands. Hint: one of them will have zero current flowing through it and will look like an open circuit (infinite resistance). The other will have zero voltage across it and will look like a short circuit (zero resistance). Applying this knowledge to your circuit simplifies it into a purely resistive network which you can analyze using standard methods. Another hint: VC will be the same as VR2 and IL will be the same as IR3. After answering this question, what do you get for a simplified circuit?

You could find Req and use the current divider rule to find IL if you like (if you go down this path, please show your steps and intermediate results), but there is another more direct way to get the answer.
 
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