Nonlinear electric susceptibility and degenerate frequencies

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The discussion revolves around the concept of nonlinear electric susceptibility, particularly in the context of second harmonic generation (SHG) processes involving beams of light with the same frequency but potentially different propagation directions. Participants explore the implications of these conditions on the susceptibility tensor and related calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the propagation direction of two collinear beams of the same frequency ω necessitates labeling the frequencies as ω1 and ω2, leading to different susceptibility components.
  • Another participant argues that the second order susceptibility is material-specific and not influenced by the propagation direction, suggesting that the value of ##\chi^{(2)}(2\omega;\omega,\omega)## remains unchanged regardless of direction.
  • A participant discusses the calculation of nonlinear source polarization, indicating that the complex amplitudes of the two fields result in multiple propagation terms and phase matching conditions, while the effective susceptibility can be treated as a common factor for beams with the same polarization.
  • One participant notes the definition of effective susceptibility ##d_{eff}## applies when beams propagate in the same direction, and expresses uncertainty about deriving a similar expression for crossing beams.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the impact of propagation direction on the susceptibility tensor, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the derivation of effective susceptibility for crossing beams and the assumptions underlying the definitions of susceptibility components.

Yorre
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Hi there,

I'm having a little trouble understanding the "distinguishability" of frequencies in the nonlinear electric susceptibility tensor. As far as I understand, if we have a SHG process with two collinear beams of the same polarization and frequency ω, there is only one susceptibility component 2ω;ω,ω. But if these beams propagate to different directions, still with the same frequency ω, must we label the frequencies as ω1 and ω2 and end up with components 2ω;ω1,ω1 , 2ω;ω2,ω2 , 2ω;ω1,ω2 and 2ω;ω2,ω1? So can the propagation alone make the beams distinct?

Thanks in advance!
 
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The second order susceptibility, as well as susceptibility in the other orders, are material specific and is not dependent on the external field. So, I believe propagation direction should not change the value of ##\chi^{(2)}(2\omega;\omega,\omega)##. The quantities which will look different for different propagation alignments are, among others, the effective susceptibility and the phase matching condition.
 
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Thanks for the reply, blue_leaf. So when calculating the NL source polarization, the complex amplitudes of the two fields create four propagation terms (1,1), (1,2), (2,1), (2,2) and four phase matching conditions, while the effective susceptibility can be taken as the common factor when both fields have the same polarization?
 
Sorry, I forgot that the effective susceptibility ##d_{eff}## was defined when the two beams are propagating in the same direction, and it reads
$$
P(\omega_3) = d_{eff}E(\omega_1)E(\omega_2)
$$
where ##P(\omega_3) = |\mathbf{P}(\omega_3)|## and ##E(\omega_i) = |\mathbf{E}(\omega_i)|##. For crossing beams, I am not sure if you can derive a similar expression which relates the magnitudes of the polarization and fields like that above. An example of the derivation of ##d_{eff}## can be found in "Applied Nonlinear Optics" by Zernike and Midwinter for some cases. May be you can derive ##d_{eff}## for general case of crossing beams.
 

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