Ocean Tides, Earth's Rotation, Moon's Orbital Radius, & Global Warming

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential impacts of rising ocean levels on the Earth's rotational speed and the Moon's orbital radius. Participants explore the interconnections between ocean levels, Earth's rotation, and the Moon's recession, considering both theoretical implications and specific rates of change.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether rising ocean levels could impact the Earth's rotational speed and the Moon's orbital radius, suggesting a connection between these phenomena.
  • Another participant argues that any effect from rising ocean levels would be too small to be noticeable compared to the Earth's size.
  • A different participant rephrases the question to focus on specific rates: the Moon's recession at 38mm/year and the Earth's rotational period increase at 15 microseconds/year, asking how ocean level changes might alter these rates.
  • One participant posits that the Earth's rotation and the Moon's recession are linked through gravitational action, suggesting that changes in ocean levels would not significantly affect these processes.
  • Another participant proposes that changing sea levels could alter tidal friction, which may impact the rate at which the Earth loses rotational energy, potentially affecting the Moon's recession.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of ocean level changes, with some arguing that the effects are negligible while others suggest potential impacts through mechanisms like tidal friction. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent of these effects.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific rates of change related to the Moon's recession and the Earth's rotation, but the discussion does not resolve how these rates might be affected by ocean level changes. Assumptions about gravitational interactions and tidal friction are also present but not fully explored.

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If ocean levels go up enough, will they have an impact on the Earth's rotational speed and the Moon's orbital radius? If so what will the effect be? It seems that all these things are tide to one another.
 
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The effect would be too small to be noticed. Any rise in the oceans would be negligible compared to the radius of the Earth itself.
 
Perhaps my questions would seem more meaningful if I rephrased them.

The Moon recedes from the Earth at a velocity of 38mm/year. How will a change in ocean levels alter this speed?

The Earth's rotational period increases at a rate of 15 mcs/year. How will a change in ocean level alter this?
 
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The Earth's rotation and the Moon's recession are linked. Both are caused by gravitational action which acts on the bodies as a whole. A redistribution of the details on the Earth should not affect them.
 
The Earth looses rotational energy due to friction from the tides. I would reason that changing sea levels would mean changing friction. If the friction changes then there should be a change in the rate at which the Earth looses rotational energy. This should, in turn, affect the recession of the moon.
 

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