Offset Limits in RIGOL Oscilloscope

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The discussion revolves around displaying slow-changing signals on a RIGOL oscilloscope, specifically when the signal is around 5V ±100mV. The user faces challenges with AC-mode not capturing slow changes and DC-mode being limited to a 2V offset when using <500mV/DIV settings. Suggestions include using a low-pass filter to create a reference signal or employing a power supply as a reference voltage. Additionally, a difference amplifier setup is recommended to help manage the offset while maintaining signal integrity. The conversation emphasizes practical solutions for effectively visualizing and processing the signal data.
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Hello,

I have a very specific problem and didn't find any way to solve it.
My signal is very slow changing at 5V +-100mV
When I want to display this signal on my RIGOL Oscilloscope, the problem is, that with AC-mode I don't see those slow changes and in DC-mode the offset range is limited to 2V when displaying <500mV/DIV.
My changes are around 100mV so my display settings need to be 100mv/DIV.
Is there any way to display this kind of signals?

Thanks in advance
Markus
 
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Welcome to the PF, Markus.

Do you have a non-changing 5V reference signal? If so, use two 'scope probes and do a math subtraction (like A = Ch1-Ch2) to be able to get rid of the offset...
 
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No I don't have any reference signal. The signal is created by a photodetector after light passes through a fibre. So the voltage depends on the light passing through the fibre, which is slow-changing.
 
Then you could make one, with a very-lowpass-filter. Or use a power supply that you set to the average voltage. Are you digitizing the signal and doing any post-processing?
 
Okay I will give that one a try, Thanks!
Yes I need to send the data via USB to MATLAB afterwards.
 
You can probably use the power supply of the photodetector as a reference voltage, perhaps through a voltage divider if needed.
 
The power supply of the photodetector is constant, while the output DC component is changing for every measurement depending on the light through the fiber. That would mean that for every measurement I have to adjust the voltage divider.
 
Insert a difference amplifier after the photodetector:
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Connect V2 to the +5V supply and V1 to the photodetector output. The value of R depends on the choice of Op-Amp, but I would recommend something around 0.1 -1MΩ.
 

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Thank you for your useful instructions :smile:
 
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How about this? Depending in the DC level from the detector, you may want the Zener to be 3.3V. The 2.2k resistor value is just a starting suggestion, the actual value depends on the maximum available output current of the detector and the leakage current of the Zener.

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Cheers,
Tom
 

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