Engineering Op Amp Circuit Help: Solving KCL Eq with Source Transform

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The discussion centers on solving a KCL equation in an op-amp circuit using source transformation. The initial approach involved transforming the voltage source and placing resistors in series, but the user encountered difficulties simplifying the KCL equation. Suggestions included leaving the source un-transformed and writing separate KCL equations for each op-amp input to simplify the problem. The conversation also touched on the behavior of currents in ideal versus non-ideal op-amp models. Ultimately, the user found clarity and resolved their confusion regarding the problem.
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It was much easier scanning the pictures and problem than trying to recreate:

circuit1.jpg


circuit2.jpg


I began by doing a source transform, making Vs = is*Rs, and placing Rs in series instead of parallel. I then did KCL at Vn.

I tried to break the KCL eq down to il/is, but just ended up with some un-godly mess that ended up approximating to 0 for part b. Is the source transform throwing me off? Or is there just a much easier way to solve this than what I tried.

Thanks a lot.
 
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wclawson said:
It was much easier scanning the pictures and problem than trying to recreate:

circuit1.jpg


circuit2.jpg


I began by doing a source transform, making Vs = is*Rs, and placing Rs in series instead of parallel. I then did KCL at Vn.

I tried to break the KCL eq down to il/is, but just ended up with some un-godly mess that ended up approximating to 0 for part b. Is the source transform throwing me off? Or is there just a much easier way to solve this than what I tried.

Thanks a lot.

Since they want you to calculatet Il/Is, I'd probably leave the source un-transformed. Write the 2 KCL equations (one for each input on the opamp), and see how it shakes out. And yes, the approximation when the gain is infinite helps simplify it a lot.
 
I happen to be working on this same problem right now (University of rochester, ECE 111?)

Wouldn't the currents of each input always equal zero?
 
danhamilton said:
I happen to be working on this same problem right now (University of rochester, ECE 111?)

Wouldn't the currents of each input always equal zero?

For an ideal opamp, yes. But Figure 4-4 shows some of the more practical (non-ideal) model bits...
 
danhamilton said:
I happen to be working on this same problem right now (University of rochester, ECE 111?)

Wouldn't the currents of each input always equal zero?

Haha yes, ECE 111 at U of R.

Thank for the help, I've got it now.
 
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