Optimizing Angle for Material Transfer System Efficiency

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The discussion revolves around optimizing the angle for a material transfer system to enhance its efficiency. Participants explore the implications of different angles, particularly focusing on a suggested angle of 5 degrees, and the mathematical modeling involved in determining the optimal angle for operation.

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  • One participant inquires about the rationale behind the suggested 5-degree angle, linking it to the hauling effect that allows the tray to revolve back.
  • Another participant suggests that the angle should be sufficient to overcome friction in the pivot bearing and facilitate an appropriate cycle time for loading and unloading.
  • A request is made for a mathematical approach to determine the optimal angle, with specific mass values provided for calculations.
  • Participants discuss the variables involved in the system, including the mass of the empty pan, counterweight, angle of inclination, and dimensions of the arms.
  • One participant presents an equation intended to calculate the minimum load required to unbalance the arm, prompting questions about its dependence on the angle and the lack of information for calculating movement speed and shock absorption needs.

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Participants express differing views on the optimal angle and the factors influencing it, with no consensus reached on the best approach or specific angle to use. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the mathematical modeling and practical implications of the angle choice.

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Limitations include the absence of specific data on bearing characteristics, lubricant viscosities, and the moments of inertia of the system components, which are necessary for a comprehensive analysis.

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I am trying to design a material transfer system ( the system at duration 0:57 to 1:34 ).
The general layout is http://i.imgur.com/ajQ05qy.png
It was suggested that angle be 5 degree. The reason is for hauling effect so the tray can revolve back. can you explain this? why 5 degrees? supporting references will be of great help.
Thank You.
 

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physicsodyssey said:
why 5 degrees?
Whatever inclination of the plane of the arm and counterweight is adequate to overcome the friction of the pivot bearing and yield a cycle time between loading and unloading the tray that is suitable for the process.
 
There can be a range for it but how to approach it mathematically ?
Could you please elaborate it in detail? How would you approach the problem ? Do you need any data? m1=3kg & m2=10kg
I want to clear this concept and your help is highly appreciated.
 
m 1 = Mass of empty pan in kg
Pw = Weight of parts in N
m 2 = Mass of counter weight needed to be attached in kg
θ = Angle of inclination of the conveyor track
x = Length of tray arm from axis of rotation in mm
y = Length of counter weight arm from axis of rotation in mm
a = Diameter of bearing housing in mm
Height of counterweight from datum = 900 mm
Height of pan from datum = 913 mm
x = Length of tray arm from axis of rotation in mm =1000mm
y = Length of counter weight arm from axis of rotation in mm = 300mm
m1=3kg(assumption)
m1(h + a sin θ) g x = m2 y h g
m2 = 3 x 900 x 913 /300 x 900 =9.13kg
How to proceed for assumption of θ?
Can you explain me the following equation?
Pwg ≥( m1 * x^2 + m 2 * y^2 ) sin2 θ / [ x(h-xsin2 θ)]
 
physicsodyssey said:
Pwg ≥( m1 * x^2 + m 2 * y^2 ) sin2 θ / [ x(h-xsin2 θ)]
This is supposed to be giving you the minimum load (part weight) to unbalance the arm so it will swing and carry the part around the conveyor arc from station 1 to station 2 and hold it there. Unless the tray/pan and counterweight arms aren't 180 degrees opposed, there's no reason for that load to depend on the magnitude of theta other than that it be off vertical, so the form of the equation is somewhat arcane.

There isn't enough information to to calculate the speed of the movement, or the shock absorbing requirements at the ends of the travel range. Speed increases as theta increases, but without knowing particulars of bushings/bearings on the pivot, viscosities of lubricants, moments of inertia of the loaded and unloaded assembly there's no way of coming up with numbers.
 

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