Orthogonality Problem (From Fourier Analysis Text)

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The discussion revolves around a problem from Fourier analysis related to orthogonality, specifically within the context of wavelets. Participants are exploring various mathematical approaches and techniques to solve the problem, which involves integrals and potentially complex functions.

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  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their initial approach using the definition of the space D and a double integral, but expresses uncertainty about the next steps.
  • Another suggests considering the geometric interpretation of the functions involved, particularly in relation to the unit circle.
  • A different participant proposes the use of the Cauchy-Goursat theorem and mentions the exponential representation, but later notes that this theorem may not apply due to the non-analytic nature of the product function.
  • A participant acknowledges an earlier mistake in their expansion and shares their integration process using polar coordinates, questioning how to proceed with the resulting expression.
  • One participant recommends using De Moivre's Formula in conjunction with polar coordinates to assist in the problem-solving process.

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Participants are exploring various methods and approaches, but there is no consensus on the best path forward or the correctness of specific techniques. Multiple competing views and methods remain present in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the application of certain mathematical theorems and the correctness of their expansions. There are unresolved steps in the integration process and differing interpretations of the problem's requirements.

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Hello all,

I'm working through a majority of the problems in "A First Course in Wavelets with Fourier Analysis" and have stumbled upon a problem I'm having difficulty with. Please view the PDF attachment, it shows the problem and what I have done with it so far.

Once you have seen the problem and my work so far, what do you suggest I do for the next step? I thought about using the definition of the space D and setting everything less than or equal to the double integral of 1^(j+k_/2, which is just the double integral of 1 and you get xy, then I'm at a dead end, so perhaps that's not the correct route. Your ideas would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Before you dive into the math, think what these functions look like geometrically. The region is the unit circle...

You should be able to see "why" it is true geometrically, and therefore see how to prove it before you start writing down integrals.

(Hint: the word "circle" is in bold)
 
Another approach: You may also want to consider using the Cauchy-Goursat theorem, if you're familiar with it.

Think also of the exponential rep. e. Maybe this is what Aleph was suggesting.

BTW, your factorization is incorrect.

And, sorry to nitpick,but you're not really letting your θn's be in L2(D); they are there already; you're letting your θn's be given by (x+iy)n

EDIT: Cauchy-Goursat does not apply here, since the product function is not analytic.
 
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Yes, I realized earlier that my expansion was incorrect. I used polar coordinates, so we start with

∫∫[(rcosθ+irsinθ)^j(rcosθ-rsinθ)^k]rdrdθ

From here I integrated with respect to r first and then I pulled in out and was left with

[r^(j+k+2)/j+k+2]∫(cosθ+isinθ)^j(cosθ-isinθ)^k dθ

where j≠k. I am not sure exactly how to proceed. Is there an expansion of (x+iy)^j(x-iy)^k that I am not thinking of? The value in the integrand will have the form cosθ^j+k+" "+/-isinθ^j+k, where the " " represents combinations of sinθcosθ's, which integrate to zero. So I'm left with the first and last terms, which should be zero if θ=∏, correct?

If my method or logic is not optimal, please point me in the right direction.
 

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