Orthonormal Matrix Homework: Estimating |A*A'|

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The discussion revolves around a rectangular matrix A with orthonormal columns, where the original poster seeks to understand the properties of the product A*A' and its norm. The context involves linear algebra concepts related to orthonormal matrices and their transposes.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between A*A' and I, noting that while A'*A equals the identity matrix, A*A' does not. There is an inquiry into estimating the norm of A*A' and understanding why it appears to equal 1 in certain tests. Some participants also seek to explore upper bounds related to the orthonormal columns of the matrix.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising questions about the properties of the matrix and seeking clarification on the implications of orthonormality. There is no explicit consensus, but various lines of reasoning are being explored regarding the norm of A*A' and its relationship to the identity matrix.

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Participants reference external sources, such as Wikipedia, to clarify definitions and properties of orthonormal matrices. There is an emphasis on understanding the implications of the matrix dimensions and the nature of orthonormal columns.

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Homework Statement



If A is a rectangular n*m matrix (n>m) , and all the columns of A is orthonormal.

I know that A'*A=I, where A' stands for its transpose.

but A*A'<>I as I've learned from wiki. but is there an estimate for \|A \cdot A&#039;\|?


Homework Equations



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonal_matrix

in the rectangular matrix section.

The Attempt at a Solution



I have tried to write A in component form to find any hints. but i failed to solve the problem. but when i test A*A' , i always find that norm(A*A')=1, could you help me to explain it? Thank you in advance.
 
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tom08 said:

Homework Statement



If A is a rectangular n*m matrix (n>m) , and all the columns of A is orthonormal.

I know that A'*A=I, where A' stands for its transpose.

but A*A'<>I as I've learned from wiki.
What? The Wikipedia site you link to below clearly says, "Q^TQ= QQ^T= I. Alternatively Q^T= Q^{-1}".

but is there an estimate for \|A \cdot A&#039;\|?


Homework Equations



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonal_matrix

in the rectangular matrix section.

The Attempt at a Solution



I have tried to write A in component form to find any hints. but i failed to solve the problem. but when i test A*A' , i always find that norm(A*A')=1, could you help me to explain it? Thank you in advance.
 
no, please look at my wiki link in the last secion, "rectangular matrix"

if Q is not square, but column orthonormal. let Q be an n-by-m matrix, and (m<n),

then Q'*Q=I, but Q*Q'<>I.

so i want to find out an upper bound of ||I-Q*Q'|| w.r.t m, where m is the number of orthonormal columns of Q.
 
can someone give me a hand?
 

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