Oscillator with third and fifth order terms?

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The discussion focuses on extending oscillation models to include third and fifth order terms, emphasizing that only odd power terms contribute to periodic motion. A specific ordinary differential equation (ODE) is presented, highlighting its relation to the Duffing equation when considering terms up to O(x^3). It is noted that including even terms can allow oscillation, but they are negligible in systems with an odd response. However, this approximation may not hold true for electronic oscillators, where materials often exhibit symmetrical behavior. The conversation underscores the importance of considering higher-order terms for accurate modeling in various applications.
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We usually only consider the first order term for an oscillation, are there any papers on extending that model and including third and fifth order terms (since only odd power terms would cause a periodic motion)?
The ODE would look like x''=-αx-βx^3+O(x^5)
 
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Look up the Duffing equation and its solution. Your equation would be a special case of that if only the terms up to O(x3) are considered.
 
Added even terms would let oscillate as well. They are negligible if your system has an odd response, that is, its transfer function is odd, and then the even components of the series expansion are zero.

Many materials behave symmetrically hence build an odd transfer function, but this approximation would be grossly false in an electronic oscillator for instance.
 
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