Parametric curves applications

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The discussion revolves around a particle's motion along a parametric curve defined by the function f(t)=(2cos(t), 2sin(t), t). Participants are exploring the relationship between the parameter s used in the tangent line equation and the time variable t, particularly at the point where the particle leaves the curve.

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  • Participants are questioning the linear relationship between the variables s and t, with some suggesting alternative forms for s. Others are drawing analogies to variable substitution in equations to clarify the reasoning behind the chosen relationship.

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The discussion is active, with participants seeking clarification on the reasoning behind the variable substitution and its implications for the tangent line's equation. Some have offered analogies to help explain the concept, while others are exploring different interpretations of the relationship between s and t.

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There is a focus on understanding the implications of variable substitution in the context of parametric equations, and participants are considering the effects of changing the direction vector in the tangent line equation.

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Q: A particle is following the path C: f(t)=(2cos(t), 2sin(t), t), t>=0, and flies off on the tangent line at time t=3pi/2. Find the position of the particle at time t=5pi/2.

Solution:
f'(t)=(-2sint,2cost,1)
f'(3pi/2)=(2,0,1)
f(3pi/2)=(0,-2,3pi/2)

Equation of the tangent line:
l(s)=(0,-2,3pi/2) + s(2,0,1)

s=0, (0,-2,3pi/2)
So s=5pi/2 - 3pi/2 = pi gives position at t=5pi/2

l(pi)=(0,-2,3pi/2) + pi (2,0,1)
= (2pi, -2, 5pi/2) [answer]

I don't understand the red part. How come s=pi gives position at t=5pi/2 ? What is the relation between s and t? Are they realted linearly?

It would be nice if someone can explain this part. Thanks!
 
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[tex]s = t - \frac{3\pi}{2}[/tex]

It just represents the starting time when the particle leaves the curve.
 
But I don't get WHY...
Why not, say, s = t^2 -3pi/2 or s= t - 2* 3pi/2?
 
It's simple variable substitution. Here's an analogy. Say you have the equation [itex]y = m(x - x_0) + y_0[/itex]. For convenience, I can let [itex]s = x - x_0[/itex], which means [itex]y = ms + y_0[/itex]. Same thing is happening here.

Though I haven't seen parametric equations written in this form before , I think the equation of the tangent line could have been written (w/o variable substitution) as:

l(t)=(0,-2,3pi/2) + (t-3pi/2)(2,0,1)

letting s = t-3pi/2 results in:

l(s)=(0,-2,3pi/2) + s(2,0,1)

When t = 5pi/2, s = 5pi/2-3pi/2 = pi
 
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If it is 3:00 now, how long will be until it is 5:00?

Would you even consider saying s = (5)2 -3 or s= 5 - 2(3)?
 
Why would the position on the tangent line be moved by (2,0,1) per second?[/color]
Say, l(s)=(0,-2,3pi/2) + s(8,0,4), I changed the direction vector, but this would still represent the same line, how can I figure out how s and t are related now?

Thanks!
 

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