Partial Derivative of f(x,y) at (0,0)

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the partial derivative df/dy at the point (0,0) for a given function. The question is whether the function is continuous at that point, and if not, whether the partial derivative exists. It is determined that the function is not continuous at (0,0) and therefore the partial derivative does not exist at that point.
  • #1
Kuma
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Homework Statement



The question asks:

f(x,y) = 3xy+5y^3/[x^2+y^2] when (x,y) =! (0,0)
f(x,y) = 0 when (x,y) = (0,0)

what is df/dy at (0,0)?



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not sure what the answer is. At 0,0 f(x,y) is 0, so it's simply a point and the function is not continuous at the point, therefore df/dy doesn't exist?
 
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  • #2
Kuma said:

Homework Statement



The question asks:

f(x,y) = 3xy+5y^3/[x^2+y^2] when (x,y) =! (0,0)
f(x,y) = 0 when (x,y) = (0,0)

what is df/dy at (0,0)?



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not sure what the answer is. At 0,0 f(x,y) is 0, so it's simply a point and the function is not continuous at the point, therefore df/dy doesn't exist?

There are functions for which all partial derivatives exist at a point of discontinuity, so lack of continuity cannot be relied upon in this question.

RGV
 
  • #3
So then it must be 0? It's the partial derivative of a point.
 
  • #4
Kuma said:

Homework Statement



The question asks:

f(x,y) = 3xy+5y^3/[x^2+y^2] when (x,y) =! (0,0)
f(x,y) = 0 when (x,y) = (0,0)

what is df/dy at (0,0)?



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not sure what the answer is. At 0,0 f(x,y) is 0, so it's simply a point and the function is not continuous at the point, therefore df/dy doesn't exist?
Can you show that f is not continuous at (0,0) ?
 
  • #5
Don't get confused by how the function is defined. It doesn't make sense to talk about the "partial derivative of a point." You find the partial derivative of a function at a point.

Go back to the basic definition. You want to find
[tex]\left.\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\right|_{(x_0,y_0)} = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(x_0,y_0+h)-f(x_0,y_0)}{h}[/tex]when (x0,y0)=0. You need to find the limit or show it doesn't exist.
 

Related to Partial Derivative of f(x,y) at (0,0)

What is a partial derivative?

A partial derivative is a mathematical concept used in multivariable calculus to measure how a function changes in one variable while holding all other variables constant. It is represented by the symbol ∂ and is useful in analyzing the behavior of functions with multiple variables.

Why do we need partial derivatives?

Partial derivatives are useful in many fields of science and engineering, such as physics, economics, and statistics. They allow us to calculate rates of change, optimize functions, and model complex systems.

How do you find a partial derivative?

The process of finding a partial derivative involves taking the derivative of a function with respect to one of its variables while treating all other variables as constants. This can be done using the standard rules of differentiation, where the variable of interest is the only one that appears in the expression.

What is the difference between a partial derivative and a total derivative?

A partial derivative measures how a function changes in one specific direction, while a total derivative measures how a function changes in all directions. In other words, a total derivative takes into account the effects of all variables, while a partial derivative only considers the effect of one variable.

How are partial derivatives used in real-life applications?

Partial derivatives are used in many real-life applications, such as determining optimal production levels in economics, analyzing the speed of objects in motion in physics, and optimizing parameters in machine learning algorithms. They are also used in fields like meteorology, chemistry, and engineering to model and understand complex systems.

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