Partial Fractions Solving: Denominators having degrees more than 2

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges of solving partial fractions when the denominators contain polynomials of degree greater than 2. Participants explore methods of factoring higher degree polynomials and the implications for solving such fractions.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about methods for solving fractions with denominators of degree greater than 2, noting that lower degree cases have established methods.
  • Another participant points out that the difficulty arises from the challenge of factoring higher degree polynomials, although the principle remains the same once factors are identified.
  • There is a discussion about specific polynomial identities, with references to factoring cubes and the complexities involved.
  • Some participants assert that every polynomial of degree greater than two can be factored into first or second degree factors, but emphasize that finding these factors is not straightforward.
  • Concerns are raised about the applicability of certain methods only to specific types of polynomials, such as perfect cubes.
  • Participants note the presence of typos in earlier posts, which may affect the clarity of the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the ease of factoring higher degree polynomials and the applicability of certain methods. There is no consensus on a definitive approach to solving the original problem posed.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the limitations in finding factors for higher degree polynomials and the potential for confusion due to typographical errors in earlier contributions.

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I just want to know if there is now a way to solve fractions like which had a variables that has a degree more than 2 in its denominator. I know that denominators having degrees of 2 could be solved using
(Ax + B)/(x2+a).
But how about denominators like (x3+a) and so on?
 
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The main difficulty is that it is much harder to get the factors for higher degree polynomials. The principal is the same once you've got the factors.
 
On the other hand, the one you specifically give is relatively simple:
As checkitagain pointed out, this should have been
[tex]x^2+ y^2= (x+ y)(x^2- xy+ y^2)[/tex]

By "completing the square", [itex]x^2- xy+ y^2= x^2- xy+ y^2/4- y^2/4+ y^2= (x- y/2)^2+ 3y^2/4[/itex].

Let [itex]y= \sqrt{a}[/itex].

But, as mathman says, while every polynomial can be factored into linear or quadratic terms over the real numbers (into linear terms over the complex numbers), the higher the degree of the polynomial, the harder to find the factors.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
On the other hand, the one you specifically give is relatively simple:
[tex]x^2+ y^2= (x+ y)(x^2+ xy+ y^2)[/tex]

I haven't received any feedback about my issues with the content
in the quote box above, so I am posting this:


[tex]x^3 - y^3 = (x - y)(x^2 + xy + y^2)[/tex]


[tex]x^3 + y^3 = (x + y)(x^2 - xy + y^2)[/tex]
 
so it can only be done to perfect cube terms??
 
engphy2 said:
so it can only be done to perfect cube terms??
Not necessarily. But in general you need to find the factors, which may be difficult in practice.
 
Every polynomial of degree greater than two can be factored into first or second degree factors- in fact, if we use complex numbers entirely into first degree factors. That does NOT mean that there is any simple way to find those factors.
 
checkitagain said:
I haven't received any feedback about my issues with the content
in the quote box above, so I am posting this:


[tex]x^3 - y^3 = (x - y)(x^2 + xy + y^2)[/tex]


[tex]x^3 + y^3 = (x + y)(x^2 - xy + y^2)[/tex]

Yes, there were typos in the exponents in HoI's post.
 

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