Period of Anharmonic Oscillator

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The discussion revolves around calculating the period of an anharmonic oscillator, specifically one where the net force is given by F=-cx^3. The original poster seeks to determine the time taken for the oscillator to move from x=0 to x=A, with A representing the amplitude.

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  • Participants explore dimensional analysis and conservation of energy as methods to approach the problem. The original poster attempts to derive the period using dimensional arguments but realizes a multiplicative factor issue. Others suggest using a separable differential equation derived from energy conservation. There is also discussion about the potential for Taylor series approximations of integrals related to the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored. Some participants have provided guidance on using differential equations and approximations, while others have raised questions about terminology and the nature of the integrals involved. There is no explicit consensus on a single method to solve the problem.

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Participants note that there is no closed-form analytical solution to the problem, and some express uncertainty regarding the nomenclature used in the discussion of Taylor series and integrals.

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Homework Statement



Hi,

For a certain oscillator the net force on a body, with mass m, is given by F=-cx^3.

One quarter of a period is the time taken for the body to move from x=0 to x=A (where A is the amplitude of the oscillation). Calculate this time and hence the period.

Homework Equations



[tex]U(x)=(cx^4)/4[/tex], where U(x) represents the potential energy of the body.


The Attempt at a Solution



In order to solve this I used a homogeneity of units argument as follows,

Units of time are [tex](s)[/tex]

Units of potential energy are [tex](kg*m^2)/(s^2)[/tex]

In order to get from the potential energy units to the time units,

[tex](s)=\sqrt{((kg*m^2)/(s^2))}[/tex]

in terms of the above equations this is,

[tex]\sqrt{(m*x^2/U(x))}[/tex]=[tex]\sqrt{((4*m*x^2)/(c*x^4))}[/tex]

let x=A and the equation =T/4,

[tex]T/4=\sqrt{((4*m)/(cA^2))}[/tex]

hence, [tex]T=4*\sqrt{((4*m)/(cA^2))}[/tex]

However this is incorrect, my answer is wrong by a multiplicative factor. Please could someone show me where I have gone wrong?
 
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You can not use dimensional analysis to find multiplicative factors.

There is no closed form analytical solution to this question (?)

Use conservation of energy ## \dfrac{m(x')^2}{2} + U(x) = U(A) ## where ##m## is the mass of a weight attached to the oscillator. With some algebra, you should end up with this ## \dfrac{d x}{ dt } =\sqrt{ \dfrac{c(A^4 - x^4) }{ 2m }} ## which is a separable differential equation. Integrate t from 0 to T/4 and x from 0 to A.
 
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Well the ODE as a function of time doesn't have closed form solution indeed. Instead the ODE as a function of x (and velocity v as unknown function) has a closed form solution $$m\frac{dv}{dt}=-cx^3\Rightarrow m\frac{dv}{dx}\frac{dx}{dt}=-cx^3\Rightarrow m\frac{dv}{dx}v=-cx^3$$
 
Nvm what I said in post #3, doesn't help us find the period, seems one way to approximately solve the ode of post #2 is to find a Taylor series approximation of the integral $$\frac{T}{4}=\sqrt{2m}\int_0^A \frac{dx}{\sqrt{c(A^4-x^4)}}$$. Wolfram gives the first two terms of this approximation as $$\frac{x^4}{c^{1/2}A^2}+\frac{x^6}{10c^{3/2}A^6}$$
 
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Delta2 said:
Taylor series approximation of the integral

Don't you mean "Tayloer series of the integrand"?
The integral is not a function of x...
 
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drmalawi said:
Don't you mean "Tayloer series of the integrand"?
The integral is not a function of x...
Yes well, I mean the respective indefinite integral.
 
and a Taylor series always have a point which you expand around, I guess you took x=0.
 
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Delta2 said:
here is what I get from wolfram, judge for yourself

I am not questioning whether it is correct or not, I am just nitpicking about nomenclature ;)
 
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Since this is a very old thread, I think it would OK to continue on from @drmalawi 's setup in post #2 and finish it:

##T = \large \frac{4}{A} \sqrt{\frac{m}{2c}} \int_0^1 \frac{du}{\sqrt{1-u^4}}##

Mathematica expresses the value of the integral in terms of the gamma function:

##\large \int_0^1 \frac{du}{\sqrt{1-u^4}} = \sqrt \pi \frac{\Gamma(5/4)}{\Gamma(3/4)}## ## \approx 1.311##

Then ##T \approx 3.708 \large \frac{\sqrt{m/c}}{A}##
 
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Yeah I was hesitaded not to give away too much.

One can also integrate numerically from 0 to 1-ε where ε is a small positive number

Or, just plug it into wolfram alpha :oldsmile:
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