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Yes, threads. They show in the Forums with/without highlighting for not/have been visited, but not on the Alerts page.
Alerts and Watched threads are different. For watched thread data use this pageTom.G said:Yes, threads. They show in the Forums with/without highlighting for not/have been visited, but not on the Alerts page.
How can the system know which alert your eyes have seen?Tom.G said:Are we supposed to remember which ones we've seen or haven't seen.
Unknown, but my (poorly worded) comment intended to reference posts in the list that were visited, either via the Alerts list, or perhaps independently after the Alert was created. As distinct from having seen the list. Just like a to-do list where you cross out the items as they are completed, not every time you read the list.Greg Bernhardt said:How can the system know which alert your eyes have seen?
I agree with this. It is how it used to work in PF4 and at least it used to be important to make sure to visit those threads or you would not get any further alerts from them. I believe it is how many users are used to going through their alerts. It used to be that if you went to your alerts, unread threads or new alerts were specifically marked, letting you know what was actually new since last you visited.Tom.G said:Unknown, but my (poorly worded) comment intended to reference posts in the list that were visited, either via the Alerts list, or perhaps independently after the Alert was created. As distinct from having seen the list. Just like a to-do list where you cross out the items as they are completed, not every time you read the list.
Tom.G said:And it thought I was Asymptotic.
Orodruin said:I agree with this.
don't we click on them to view ?Greg Bernhardt said:How can the system know which alert your eyes have seen?
.jim hardy said:don't we click on them to view ?
Theoretically, if the alert bell carries a red number n, then the last n posts could be presented highlighted, thus marking the boundary between old and new.Greg Bernhardt said:How can the system know which alert your eyes have seen?
You don't need to click on an alert to view it. You just look at the alert and read it. When you click on an alert and go to the thread, it then marks the thread as read in your watched threads list. There is confusion here when talking about alerts vs watched threads functionality. An alert is just a temporary notification message. The alert count is not an unread watched thread counter.jim hardy said:don't we click on them to view ?
There is a orange left side border to show new vs old alerts. I think the background changes to grey too. Do I need to make more apparent?fresh_42 said:Theoretically, if the alert bell carries a red number n, then the last n posts could be presented highlighted, thus marking the boundary between old and new.
He is not talking about seeing the alert itself, he is talking about reading the post that the alert refers to.Greg Bernhardt said:You don't need to click on an alert to view it. You just look at the alert and read it. When you click on an alert and go to the thread, it then marks the thread as read in your watched threads list. There is confusion here when talking about alerts vs watched threads functionality. An alert is just a temporary notification message. The alert count is not an unread watched thread counter.
I think the confusion is another. The orange bar is ok for one or two threads, but not for 20. I (we?) used to click on alert to see the list and then proceed bottom - top to check what we have missed while away.Greg Bernhardt said:There is a orange left side border to show new vs old alerts. I think the background changes to grey too. Do I need to make more apparent?
Wrichik Basu said:When you hover/click upon the alerts, then the system assumes that you have read all the alerts at one go before closing the dropdown. But if someone reads one alert at a time - sees the alert, clicks on the thread, replies to the thread - and again checks the alert dropdown, then already all the alerts have been marked Read, and the person loses sight of which alert he has responded to, and which not.
That isn't the same. I get alerts for new threads in watched forums, but not on watched threads. The watched forums list would be double action in comparison to alert. And, at least for me, watched forums isn't really what I want to know. New threads, yes, new answers on the 100th QM thread, no. So the alert functionality was just perfect. The calculation routine for the little red numbers however is sub-optimal.Greg Bernhardt said:I understand that and maybe there is something I can do, but in general, it's just a notification system, not a watched thread tracker. When you get multiple alerts I would scan them all. If there are multiple threads, go to your watched thread page.
Please check your settingsfresh_42 said:I get alerts for new threads in watched forums, but not on watched threads.
This adds extra clicks because you would need to find that in a separate menu. Is there some way of adding a link to the watched threads page in the alerts drop-down?Greg Bernhardt said:I understand that and maybe there is something I can do, but in general, it's just a notification system, not a watched thread tracker. When you get multiple alerts I would scan them all. If there are multiple threads, go to your watched thread page.
Sorry, I was unclear.Greg Bernhardt said:Please check your settings
https://www.physicsforums.com/account/preferences
That has been changed to red recently.Tom.G said:
I changed it to red to match the alert counter. Only when you have new alerts.Tom.G said:What Orange border?
The server is repolled for alerts every 30sec. We did this in PF4 too.dlgoff said:@Greg Bernhardt Lately I've noticed pages (tabs in firefox) reloading without manually doing so via the firefox browser. What is the reason for this?
Great, I can keep expanding it to other forumsfresh_42 said:This summary thingy in SR/GR and QM was a brilliant idea! 2 lines to read instead of 30 just to find out whether it is of interest for someone or not.
Unfortunately, it is impossible to quote from it - just like the problem statement in homework. In a summary, being able to quote it is even more relevant.Greg Bernhardt said:Great, I can keep expanding it to other forums
Yup, working on itOrodruin said:Unfortunately, it is impossible to quote from it - just like the problem statement in homework. In a summary, being able to quote it is even more relevant.
This is not design but a result of low screen resolution. What device are you using @jim hardy?Tom.G said:This seems to be a condition that does not have a high priority attached to it. I posted about it here a few weeks ago and there was no action taken then either. If others find it annoying and/or a reduced usability problem, chime in about it so it has a chance of being corrected.