Phase space of a harmonic oscillator and a pendulum

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Homework Statement
Draw the phase space in new canonical coordinates and the phase space of a single varying mass pendulum
Relevant Equations
H=p^2/2m+(1/2)kx^2
Hello everybody, new here. Sorry in advance if I didn't follow a specific guideline to ask this.

Anyways, I've got as a homework assignment two cannonical transformations (q,p)-->(Q,P). I have to obtain the hamiltonian of a harmonic oscillator, and then the new coordinates and the hamiltonian as a function of them (which is done correctly, I think).

I have to obtain the phase space in (Q,P) of this oscillator, but I have no idea how to. My question is how do I proceed to do so?

Also, another exercise I have is to obtain the solution to the equations of motion for a single varying-mass pendulum assuming small oscillations (sinx = x). I've proceeded introducing the rocket equation into the eq. of motion I've got, but I don't know if this is the correct way to do so. I have to obtain the phase space of this pendulum too, but no idea how to.

I would appreciate any help I can get regarding this, it would be extremely helpful.

Thanks fellow physicists.
 
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DannyJ108 said:
Homework Statement:: Draw the phase space in new canonical coordinates and the phase space of a single varying mass pendulum
Relevant Equations:: H=p^2/2m+(1/2)kx^2

Anyways, I've got as a homework assignment two cannonical transformations (q,p)-->(Q,P).
Here I cannot find what Q and P are as function of normal coordinate q and momentum p.
 
anuttarasammyak said:
Here I cannot find what Q and P are as function of normal coordinate q and momentum p.
True. Sorry about that.
##q = \sqrt{2P}A^{-1/4}\ sinQ##
##p = \sqrt{2P}A^{1/4}\ cosQ##
Also, I have to apply this transformation to the Hamiltonian using
##A = Km##
The resulting Hamiltonian I get is:
##H = \omega P## being ##\omega = \sqrt \frac K m##
But as I said, I don't know how to represent the phase space in Q,P
 
In mathematics xy plane can be divided by cells of area ##dx\ dy## or in other way by ##r\ dr\ d\phi##.
Drawing r##\phi## rectangle plane, ##\phi## is limited in [0,2##\pi##] and r is half limited in [0,+##\infty##]. Area of rectangle cells ##dr\ d\phi## are not just the product but proportional to the value of r.

In phase space here p, q corresponds to the former, P,Q corresponds to the latter where P to r and Q to ##\phi##.
 
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anuttarasammyak said:
In mathematics xy plane can be divided by cells of area ##dx\ dy## or in other way by ##r\ dr\ d\phi##.
Drawing r##\phi## rectangle plane, ##\phi## is limited in [0,2##\pi##] and r is half limited in [0,+##\infty##]. Area of rectangle cells ##dr\ d\phi## are not just the product but proportional to the value of r.

In phase space here p, q corresponds to the former, P,Q corresponds to the latter where P to r and Q to ##\phi##.
Okay, but how do I proceed to get the equations of phase space? What variables do I need to group in order to know what to draw?
Also, would you know if the procedure I mentioned for the pendulum are correct?
 
What do you mean by "the equations of phase space" ? Show them for original p and q to get the precise idea SVP.
 
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