What Are the True Dimensions of Physical Units in Physics?

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The discussion centers on the concept of dimensions in physics, particularly how physical units like grams, meters, and seconds relate to dimensional analysis. Participants explore the meaning of "dimension" in both unit contexts and in the framework of space-time. There is a focus on understanding complex units like Joules and Newton-seconds, with an emphasis on how these units encapsulate multiple physical concepts through multiplication. The analogy of "man-hours" is used to illustrate the idea that while individual values may not be known, their product conveys meaningful information about the physical scenario. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of dimensional analysis in grasping the relationships between physical quantities.
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Hi =D

I was thinking about the physical units (g, m, s, K, J, A, V, etc). I know we got a thing in physics called dimensional analysis, so you analyse some variable that you know it depends on other variables and the two sides of the "equation" (I mean a equation with the proportional sign instead of equal sign) have to have the same "dimension" (the same units).

We also use to talk: "The dimension of velocity is the dimension of space over the dimension of time.".

Why do we call "dimension" the units of physics? Has this term "dimension" the same meaning of when we talk that time is the fourth dimension in space-time, of when we talk that a equation like "x + y + z = 0" describes a plane?

What's the correct way to imagine the dimensions of the physical units in a graph? What about a complicated concept that has lots of base units like electric current (measured in A), or even a simple one (Joule = kg * m^2 / s^2)? How should I imagine this complicated combination of dimensions? Does it has really intuitive and physical meaning, or is a pure result of the mathematics?

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I know how to understand a unit like Watt: Watt is equals to Joules per second, so if we have a resistor that dissipates 2W of power we can talk that this resistor converts 2 Joules of electrical energy into thermal energy (heat) in one second.
But what about units like N*s (unit of impulse), or Joules (N*m)? How do I understand that? I have a understanding of these units but I don't know if it's right so check it please: I understand that if we have 5J or 5N*m I have two values encapsulated in this number: we of course don't know what are the values separately but we know that they multiplied is 5, and I can also conclude that we have two physical concepts encapsulated on unit Joule (force in N and space in m), that's right? Am I thinking right?

Any contributions are welcome... Thanks
 
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Taturana said:
Hi =D
But what about units like N*s (unit of impulse), or Joules (N*m)? How do I understand that? I have a understanding of these units but I don't know if it's right so check it please: I understand that if we have 5J or 5N*m I have two values encapsulated in this number: we of course don't know what are the values separately but we know that they multiplied is 5, and I can also conclude that we have two physical concepts encapsulated on unit Joule (force in N and space in m), that's right? Am I thinking right?

Any contributions are welcome... Thanks

As for this question, think of the unit like "man-hours". If a job requires 100 man-hours to finish, it could be accomplished in 10 hours with 10 people, or in 4 hours with 25 people, etc. you are right that we don't know what the values are separately. We don't know that a job that requires 100 man-hours to finish requires 1 or 10 or 25 people. We just know it requires a combination of workers * hours = 100.
 
I actually has the same question with yours initially, thinking in terms of dimensions really helps understanding the physics, however, when equation get more complicated, dimension analysis becomes less efficiency for understanding the physics. So I changed my habit to vary the parameters in the equation and see the effect, eg, v=L/t, if t is shorter, then v is larger. This kind of thinking is quite useful when dealing with complicated equation. I think:)
 
So I know that electrons are fundamental, there's no 'material' that makes them up, it's like talking about a colour itself rather than a car or a flower. Now protons and neutrons and quarks and whatever other stuff is there fundamentally, I want someone to kind of teach me these, I have a lot of questions that books might not give the answer in the way I understand. Thanks

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