Physics bullet in wood; I can't figure it out?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work lost due to friction when a bullet passes through a block of wood. The bullet's initial and final speeds are given, and the user struggles to apply the work-energy theorem correctly. The correct formula for work done by friction is identified as W = KE_initial - KE_final, leading to a calculated work loss of -7.4 J. Additionally, the average force exerted by the block on the bullet is determined using the acceleration derived from the change in velocity. The user ultimately resolves their confusion with the help of others in the thread.
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Homework Statement


I can't figure this one out. I can't use any of Newtons laws to solve this, kinetic formulas, and w=Em+Ek doesn't seem to be working for energy. I know the answer, but I can't solve it.

kg = kilogram
m/s = meters per second
m = meter

A 0.002kg bullet is traveling at 87 m/s, after passing through a 4 cm block of wood its speed is 12 m/s.

a) How much work is lost due to friction (Answer is -7.4 J but I can't solve it mathematically)
b) Average force of block (Answer is -180 N)

Homework Equations


a) For work lost due to friction I'm guessing they want to know the air resistance, I have no idea how to do this part

b) Average force of block:
wcd = (.5*12^2)-(.5*87^2) = -3 712.5 J

P = w/t but the only problem is no time is supplied. I'm not quite sure what to do


The Attempt at a Solution


a) .5 * 87^2 = .5 * 12^2
 
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Work isn't lost, it's "done." Energy is lost. Do you know the work-energy theorem (I'm not sure if the w=Em+Ek is supposed to be some form of that)?
 
a) KEoriginal must equal the workfriction + KEafter
b) You must find the a that the block causes on the bullet first. Use v22 = v12 + 2ad to solve for a.
 
S_Happens said:
Work isn't lost, it's "done." Energy is lost. Do you know the work-energy theorem (I'm not sure if the w=Em+Ek is supposed to be some form of that)?

Yes, W = Ek2 - Ek1 = 1/2m(v2^2-v1^2)
1/2 * 0.002 * (87^2-12^2) = 7.4 J. I can't believe I forgot about that. Thank you.

tal444 said:
a) KEoriginal must equal the workfriction + KEafter
b) You must find the a that the block causes on the bullet first. Use v22 = v12 + 2ad to solve for a.

I can't solve for a because I don't have the displacement or such, unless it is 4 CM?

87^2 = 12^2 + 2 * a * 0.04

7425/0.08 = a
a = 92 812.5

F = 0.002 * 92 812.5 = 185.62500 N

Thank you for the help, I really appreciate it
 
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Nicely done, and glad to be of help.
 
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