Physics Professor teaching Math with no book assigned to the course

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The discussion revolves around concerns about a physics professor teaching a mathematical methods course exclusively from his own lecture notes without assigning a textbook or supplementary reading materials. Students express feelings of being inadequately prepared, especially since the course material is unfamiliar to them and the professor has admitted to creating notes shortly before classes. While some participants note that teaching from personal notes is common, they agree that not providing any recommended texts is unusual. Suggestions include checking library resources for relevant mathematical methods books and considering the benefits of learning from a professor's unique approach. Some participants emphasize the importance of communication with the professor regarding supplementary materials, while others encourage students to adapt to this teaching style and seek additional resources independently. Overall, the conversation highlights a mix of frustration and adaptability in the face of unconventional teaching methods.
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Just wondering what anyone else thinks about one of the physics professor's at my university teaching a mathematical methods course strictly from notes. He did not assign a textbook.

Most of the material I have not seen before. Is this common? This course was restructured halfway through the school year, and the professor has admitted to writing the notes the night before class. I can't help feeling shorthanded. There is no suggested reading material AT ALL. Am I wrong to think he cannot possibly communicate everything he should be communicating through his lecture notes thrown together at the last minute?

Please let me know if you have any thoughts about this...
 
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Thanks! One of my professor's has mentioned her before...
 
It's not uncommon to teach from lecture notes, it's more uncommon to not list any supplementary texts. You can always just ask your instructor what it recommends.
 
In my experience it's very common to teach from notes. Out of all my math classes, only the two semesters of statistics I took were taught from a textbook, and the instructor's notes were different from the textbook (a good thing in this case). The syllabus for each class I have taken did have a list of suggested references, though. I really like it when professors teach from their own notes; it really helps especially when you read the course textbook.
 
This is common. The best courses I took were based on professors notes and not on texts - both in undergrad and grad school (EDIT: come to thing of it, I can think of NO graduate course I took that was strongly based on a book...). It is unusual to not recommend books that are worth looking at, or to not put books on reserve in the library. But my hunch is that you are actually getting a course that the professor has actually thought through and hopefully not thrown together at the last minute. It would be much easier for her/him to simply pick a book and march through it.

Check out your library to look at math methods books. If you find one you think could help, check it out. Also, used copies of old editions of many math methods books can be found online (places like amazon) for cheap. Finally, there are some free books online. Here is one by Prof. Nearing at Miami:
http://www.e-booksdirectory.com/details.php?ebook=104
the www.e-booksdirectory.com site has MANY books.

jason
 
Interesting! OK, I will try to embrace a different teaching style than I am used to, and check out the library... Thanks for your thoughts guys!
 
lonewolf219 said:
Most of the material I have not seen before. Is this common?

Isnt this supposed to be the case all the time unless you are throttling down to maximize your GPA?
 
I am just surprised that a professor would think it was a good idea to limit our information on a new topic.
 
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Is he forbidding you from reading anything else? :eek:
 
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The professor's notes are surely based on notes by the professor teaching the course before him. It's not mandatory for him to follow in the footsteps of his predecessors, of course. Each lecturer must/should have the decency of bringing some novelty into his classes, if not in course content, then perhaps in presentation (to include an important proof for example).

But simply not providing a bibliography to his course is not tragic. His intention is that his students do not get distracted from his material by reading things they may not need.

Fortunately, you have PF to ask about supplimentary reading.
 
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And nothing prevents you from going to your professor and asking for some supplementary reading.
 
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I already asked, and he did not provide any information other than to say just use your old physics books. I did buy a mathematical methods book that I thought would be good, but so far it is not much help. I should have asked PF first! The library carries the Mary Boas book jtbell mentioned earlier, which I plan to check out. Thanks for the advice
 
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