Pipeline pump station pipe burst modelling

AI Thread Summary
The discussion focuses on modeling a pipe burst scenario at a pump station for a water pipeline project, specifically addressing the flow rate entering the pump room during a burst. The participant is questioning the accuracy of using a K factor of 2.7 for modeling head loss across a DN250 orifice in a DN600 ductile iron pipe, as this value seems unsupported by references. The conversation emphasizes the need to establish assumptions for different operational scenarios, such as local and remote pumps, to accurately calculate burst flow rates. It is noted that the head loss should be calculated as the differential head between the system head and atmospheric pressure. The discussion also references ASME specifications for calculating expected pressure differentials in orifice flow scenarios.
James3849
Messages
23
Reaction score
0
Hi all,


I am currently working on a water pipeline project and am investigating a pipe burst scenario at a pump station with the aim of producing a flow rate entering the pump room in the event of a burst.

For simplification and what has been used previously on similar jobs is to model the burst as an orrice of a certain size dependant on how large the mainline pipe is.

Being a bi-directional pipeline, this pump station could experience either gravity flow dwon from a reservoir, or pumped flow from another pump station.

My question has to do with modelling the head loss across the orifice. The pipe under investigation is a DN600 ductile iron pipe, to be investigated with a DN250 orifice in a burst scenario. Previously the orifice as been modeled as a minor loss with a K factor of approximately 2.7. But I am questioning the accuracy of this as I cannot find reference to such a value.

Can anyone provide any justifcation for this assumption. I will be happy to provide any additional information if needed.
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
If your K variable is the discharge coefficient for an orifice, it should never be greater than 1.0

The following thread may help;
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=361268

The orifice flow formula used there is from Cameron Hydraulic Data book.

You say you are "modelling the head loss across the orifice" and have "the aim of producing (calculating?) a flow rate entering the pump room in the event of a burst".

You will need to establish some assumptions (worst case?) to calculate the flow rate.
Case 1.) local pumps operating
Assume the burst is downstream of the pump(s) at the station
Assume the pump(s) continue operating (check NPSHr at runout)
Assume the pipe failure is complete? partial?
Case 2.) remote pumps operating
Assume the pipe failure is complete? partial?

Depending on your system and assumptions, the burst flow rate becomes a matter of orifice flow calculations at the operating point of your pump(s).

If the "head loss" you refer to is the differential head across the orifice, then that would be the difference between the system head at the burst location and atmospheric... for two cases; 1.) local pump(s) operating and 2.) remote pump(s) operating.
.
 
The OP is just treating the orifice as a minor loss. The K value of 2.7 is the frictional loss term, not the Cd.

In the ASME specs, the method of calculating the expected delta P is stated as

\frac{\sqrt{1-\beta^4}-C \beta^2}{\sqrt{1-\beta^4}+C \beta^2} \Delta P

Where
C = Discharge coefficient
\beta = Beta ratio (d2/d1)
 
Last edited:
Posted June 2024 - 15 years after starting this class. I have learned a whole lot. To get to the short course on making your stock car, late model, hobby stock E-mod handle, look at the index below. Read all posts on Roll Center, Jacking effect and Why does car drive straight to the wall when I gas it? Also read You really have two race cars. This will cover 90% of problems you have. Simply put, the car pushes going in and is loose coming out. You do not have enuff downforce on the right...
Thread 'Physics of Stretch: What pressure does a band apply on a cylinder?'
Scenario 1 (figure 1) A continuous loop of elastic material is stretched around two metal bars. The top bar is attached to a load cell that reads force. The lower bar can be moved downwards to stretch the elastic material. The lower bar is moved downwards until the two bars are 1190mm apart, stretching the elastic material. The bars are 5mm thick, so the total internal loop length is 1200mm (1190mm + 5mm + 5mm). At this level of stretch, the load cell reads 45N tensile force. Key numbers...
I'm trying to decide what size and type of galvanized steel I need for 2 cantilever extensions. The cantilever is 5 ft. The space between the two cantilever arms is a 17 ft Gap the center 7 ft of the 17 ft Gap we'll need to Bear approximately 17,000 lb spread evenly from the front of the cantilever to the back of the cantilever over 5 ft. I will put support beams across these cantilever arms to support the load evenly
Back
Top