Piston question to find temperature and pressure

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The discussion centers on a homework problem involving air in a vertical cylinder with a piston, where the air is initially at 0.21 MPa and 430 C. The key issue raised is the assumption that PV=constant during the cooling process, which contradicts the behavior of an ideal gas, as temperature would remain constant under those conditions. Participants emphasize the need for clarity in the problem statement, particularly regarding the position of the piston stops and the relevant equations used. The importance of following forum rules by providing attempted solutions and equations is also highlighted. Overall, the conversation underscores the complexities of thermodynamic principles in this scenario.
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Homework Statement


Air is contained in a vertical cylinder fitted with a frictionless piston and a set of stops. The cross sectional area of the piston is 0.05m^2. The air, which is initially at 0.21 MPa and 430 C, is cooled as result of heat transfer to the surroundings. Assuming that during the decrease in volume PV=constant find (a) the temperature of the air inside the cylinder when the piston reaches the stops and (b) the pressure inside the cylinder if cooling continues until the temperature is 70 C. Assume the air behaves as an ideal gas with constant specific heat with k=1.4
The piston is 1.2m in length, stops are placed halfway of the piston, dividing the piston in two parts of 0.6m.The attempt at a solution
Cant understand where to start
 
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Hi Nightlord and welcome to PF. Please follow the rules of this forum and use the template when you seek help with homework. Show us the relevant equations and tell us what you tried and what you think about the problem. We just don't give answers away.
 
Nightlord said:
Assuming that during the decrease in volume PV=constant
There is a problem with this question. If PV=constant, then temperature would be constant (since we assume it is an ideal gas). So PV cannot be constant during a cooling process.

Also, if you are supposed to actually answer a) we would have to know where the stops are.

Please provide the entire question and show us what you have done.

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