Piston volume and pressure problem

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The problem involves a cylinder in a diesel engine with an initial volume of 600 cm3, where air is compressed after being admitted at a temperature of 30 degrees Celsius and a pressure of 1.0 atm. The task is to determine the final temperature and volume after 400 J of work is done on the air.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to convert pressure and volume to SI units for accurate calculations. There is also an exploration of whether the process is isobaric or adiabatic, with some questioning the assumptions about the nature of the compression.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on unit conversions and the implications of the process type, while others are exploring the consequences of treating the process as adiabatic instead of isobaric. There is an ongoing examination of the relationships between volume, pressure, and temperature.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating potential unit conversion issues and the implications of rapid compression on the type of thermodynamic process being analyzed.

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This seems like it should be really basic, so it's annoying me that I can't figure it out.

Homework Statement



One cylinder in the diesel engine of a truck has an initial volume of 600 cm^3. Air is admitted to the cylinder at 30 degrees celsius and a pressure of 1.0 atm. The piston rod then does 400 J of work to rapidly compress the air. What are its final temperature and volume?

The answers are 1100 K and 23.9 cm^3


Homework Equations



In an isobaric process, W = -p delta V
In an isobaric process, V_1 over T_1 = V_2 over T_2

The Attempt at a Solution




W = -p delta V
400 J = - (600 cm^3 - V_final)

?

Thanks for any help.
 
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If you want your answer to come out in SI units (I assume you do, since you are using Joules, an SI unit.) you can't use the pressure in the form of 1.0atm. You have to convert that to Pascals, the SI pressure unit. You will also have to convert the volume measurements to m^3. Your answer will then come out in m^3, which you can convert back to cm^3 if you wish.

You are starting the problem correctly, you just need the right units. Once you get V_f, can you find the final temperature?
 
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Thanks! For some reason I'm still not getting the answer:

400 J = - 101,300 pa (0.0006 m^3 - V_f)
400 = -61 + 101,300V_f
V_f = 0.00455 m^3 = 4550 cm^3

"Once you get V_f, can you find the final temperature?"

Yeah, this part should be easy. V_1 over T_1 = V_2 over T_2
 
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Hi zzoon,

I don't believe this process is isobaric. When the piston compresses the gas, the pressure will rise to very high levels.

The key point here is that it happens rapidly. If this processes happen rapidly enough, we can treat it as adiabatic.

What does an adiabatic process indicate about the work done? What does it equal to? Once you know that that will guide you to the next step.
 

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