Planes and parametric equations

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The discussion revolves around a problem in linear algebra concerning parametric equations and planes. The original poster is tasked with finding the z component of a point on a specified plane given in vector form, and determining the corresponding values of parameters s and t.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss converting the given vector form of the plane into parametric form, identifying the relationships between x, y, and z components. Questions arise regarding the uniqueness of the solution and the implications of finding a specific point on the plane.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants providing insights into the conversion process and the nature of the solutions. Some participants suggest that the original poster may be misunderstanding the implications of the problem's requirements regarding the uniqueness of the point.

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The original poster mentions a potential oversight in the problem statement regarding the requirement to find a specific z component that lies on the plane, which may influence the interpretation of the solution's uniqueness.

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Hi everyone! I'm having some issues with this problem for linear algebra. I understand parametric equations fairly but I'm confused about the unit vector notation

1) Consider the plane r(s,t)=2i + (t-s) j + (1+3s-5t) k find the z component of the point (2,-1, z0)

For what values of s and t is this the case?

I don't really know how to start the problem because it isn't in vector or parametric form like I'm used to.
 
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grassstrip1 said:
Hi everyone! I'm having some issues with this problem for linear algebra. I understand parametric equations fairly but I'm confused about the unit vector notation

1) Consider the plane r(s,t)=2i + (t-s) j + (1+3s-5t) k find the z component of the point (2,-1, z0)

For what values of s and t is this the case?

I don't really know how to start the problem because it isn't in vector or parametric form like I'm used to.
It's easy enough to get from the vector form to the parametric form of this plane.
Here x = 2, y = t - s, and z = 1 + 3s - 5t, and you're given a point (2, -1, z0).
 
I don't know what you are "used to" but it certainly is in "vector form" and, as Mark44 says, it is easy to convert to parametric form:
x= 2, y= t- s, z= 1+ 3s- 5t. In order to have (x, y, z)= (2, -1, z_0) you must have 2= 2, t- s= -1, and 1+ 3s- 5t= z_0.

Perhaps it is the fact that there is not a single "unique" answer that is bothering you?

There are an infinite number of points, in fact an entire line, with x= 2, y= -1. From t- s= -1, we can get t= s+ 1 and so write z_0= 1+ 3s- 5(s+ 1)= 1+ 3s- 5s- 5= -4- 2s. The set of such points consists of the line x= 2, y= -1, z= -4- 2s, for any s.
 
Thank you for the replies! I left a little something out of the problem, it said find the z component so that it lies on the plane. Wouldn't that make it just one specific point?
 
grassstrip1 said:
Thank you for the replies! I left a little something out of the problem, it said find the z component so that it lies on the plane. Wouldn't that make it just one specific point?
Work the problem through and see.
 

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