Please help me to understand how to solve the P(theta)min

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The discussion revolves around understanding how to determine the minimum value of P, denoted as P(theta)min, in the context of a system's equilibrium. The problem appears to involve trigonometric functions and their properties.

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  • Participants are exploring various methods to find Pmin, including differentiation and the use of trigonometric identities. Questions about the original poster's previous attempts and understanding are raised to guide further discussion.

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Some participants have provided insights into alternative methods for solving the problem, such as expressing the denominator using double-angle formulas and combining sine functions. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches without a clear consensus on the best method yet.

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There is mention of a previous resolution to the problem, but the original poster seeks additional methods, indicating a desire for deeper understanding rather than just a solution.

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Dear Everyone:
Q:Please help me to understand how to solve the P(theta)min is
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Thank you for your time and consideration.
 
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You're trying to prove that ##\sqrt{3} w/2## is the smallest value P can take? What have you done so far to try to solve this? We can help identify what the next step is easier if we see what your work is so far.
 
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Dear Office_Shredder
Thank you for reminding, and this problem has been solved.
(ref.https://mathhelpforum.com/threads/please-help-me-to-understand-how-to-solve-the-p-theta-min.286784/#post-958901)

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Determine the Pmin for the sys equilibrium.sol/
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Dear Everyone:
Q:Please help me to understand how to solve the P(theta)min is View attachment 268338 ?

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I know this has been solved now, but another method to do this (other than differentiation) is to notice that the denominator can be expressed as a double-angle formula. The coefficients [itex]\sqrt 3 /2[/itex] and [itex]1/2[/itex] seem to stand out to me. For example:

[tex]\frac{1}{2} cos\theta + \frac{\sqrt 3}{2} sin \theta = sin(\theta + \frac{\pi}{6})[/tex]
We can now see that we want the minimum of [itex]P[/itex] which occurs when the denominator is a maximum. Max(sin) = 1 and thus we get the answer as required (and we can see that [itex]\theta = \pi / 3[/itex] for the sin() to equal 1)
 
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An even shorter option: If two sine waves are shifted by pi/2 (just like sine and cosine are) then they can be combined to a single sine function by adding the individual amplitudes in quadrature. As formula: ##a\sin(\theta)+b\cos(\theta) = \sqrt{a^2+b^2} \sin(\theta+x)## with some phase x we don't need to care about. This function has a maximum of ##\sqrt{a^2+b^2}##. That means we just need to calculate ##\sqrt{\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^2+\left(\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}\right)^2} = \sqrt{\frac 1 4 + \frac 3 4}=1##.
 
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