Plot Range R vs Angle Theta (0-90)

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The discussion centers on calculating the range R of a projectile launched at a velocity of 30 m/s at various angles theta from 0 to 90 degrees. Participants explore the formula R(θ) = Vo² sin(2θ)/g to determine the range and identify the angle that maximizes R. There is confusion regarding the calculations, particularly at theta = 90 degrees, where the expected range should not be zero. The importance of checking calculations and understanding the relationship between angle and range is emphasized, especially in the context of an algebra-based calculus class where derivatives are not covered. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the need for careful computation and understanding of projectile motion principles.
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We are given the velocity at which an object is projected (30 m/s) at an angle theta. I have to "Plot the range R as a function of angle theta (a value somewhere between 0 and 90 (including 0 and 90)). My thought was to possibly determine R using theta = 0 and theta = 90 to find a range, but I'm not sure that's right. The next question then asks "For what angle theta is the range R maximum?" How would I even find this?
 
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For any particular value of ##\theta##, you have a particular range ##R##. So you have a function: ##R(\theta)##. You need to find a formula for this function and then do what you are asked.
 
Do you know how to find the maximum of a function?
 
DaleSpam said:
Do you know how to find the maximum of a function?

No and I've read the chapter in my physics book twice, but still don't understand
 
If the problem said, "find the range of a projectile launched at angle 21 degree to the horizontal with the initial velocity 30 m/s", how would you go about it?
 
voko said:
If the problem said, "find the range of a projectile launched at angle 21 degree to the horizontal with the initial velocity 30 m/s", how would you go about it?
R(θ) = Vo2 sin(2θ)/g

R = (30^2 * sin(21))/9.8 = 32.91 m
 
And now if the problem said the same, except "at angle 37 degree", I am sure you would be able to find the answer much in the same way, which is good. If you repeat that for a few different values of the angle, you will be able to plot the function. Just make sure that you cover the entire range 0 - 90 with values not too far away from each other. Does the plot suggest where the maximum might be?
 
voko said:
And now if the problem said the same, except "at angle 37 degree", I am sure you would be able to find the answer much in the same way, which is good. If you repeat that for a few different values of the angle, you will be able to plot the function. Just make sure that you cover the entire range 0 - 90 with values not too far away from each other. Does the plot suggest where the maximum might be?

I solved using theta values = 0, 10, 20, and so on. It increased from R=0 to R=91.83 at theta=90. This was the highest value, but am I doing something wrong? If you shoot an object straight into the air, shouldn't it come straight down?
 
sally.smith4321 said:
No and I've read the chapter in my physics book twice, but still don't understand
That is usually a topic that is covered in a math class. The way you do it is to take the derivative of the function and set it to 0. So here you would take ##dR/d\theta=0## and solve for ##\theta##
 
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Your formula is correct. However, the results you are getting are not, because ## \sin 2 \cdot 90^{\circ} = \sin 180^{\circ} = 0 ##. Check your calculations, and make sure your calculator is in the degrees mode.
 
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voko said:
Your formula is correct. However, the results you are getting are not, because ## \sin 2 \cdot 90^{\circ} = \sin 180^{\circ} = 0 ##. Check your calculations, and make sure your calculator is in the degrees mode.

Okay! I forgot to multiply all of the numbers by 2! I'll do that now. Thank you so much for your help! You don't even understand how much it means to me!
 
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DaleSpam said:
That is usually a topic that is covered in a math class. The way you do it is to take the derivative of the function and set it to 0. So here you would take ##dR/d\theta=0## and solve for ##\theta##

I'm in an algebra based calculus class. He doesn't want us using calculus. That's probably why we weren't taught the derivative part.
 
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