Solving Polar Equation r = θ + sin(2θ) for x = -2: Homework Problem

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In summary, the conversation discusses finding the angle \theta that relates to a point on the polar curve r = \theta + sin(2\theta) when x = -2. Different approaches are suggested, including converting the equation and using the Newton-Raphson method. After multiple iterations, the value of \theta is found to be approximately 2.7861 radians.
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Using this polar equation:

[tex]r = \theta + sin(2\theta)[/tex]

Find the angle [tex]\theta[/tex] that relates to the point on the curve when x = -2


I'm not sure where to start...but my guess is to convert the equation to another form...any help is appreciated.
 
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Use [tex]x=r\cos\theta[/tex], you know that theta has to be in the range to make cos theta negative, so I might write:

[tex]
\frac{-2}{\cos\theta}=\theta +\sin (2\theta )
[/tex]

and look for a possible numerical solution.
 
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Don't convert the equation, convert the condition. [itex]x= r cos(\theta)[/itex] so the condition that x= -2 becomes [itex]rcos(\theta)= -2[/itex]. Since on this curve, [itex]r= \theta+ sin(2\theta)[/itex] you want to solve [itex](\theta+ sin(2\theta))cos(\theta)= -2[/itex].
 
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x=r·cos(θ), so if x=2, r=2/cos(θ)

That leaves you to solve: 2/cos(θ) = θ + sin(2θ) for θ.

Looks like a numerical solution.
 
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SammyS said:
x=r·cos(θ), so if x=2, r=2/cos(θ)

That leaves you to solve: 2/cos(θ) = θ + sin(2θ) for θ.

Looks like a numerical solution.

yes, this is what I initially had...[tex] \theta + sin2\theta = \frac{-2}{cos\theta}[/tex]

but got stuck on finding [tex] \theta[/tex]
 
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Use Newton Raphson method. if you have an equation to solve [tex]f(\theta )=0[/tex] then to iterate to a solution use the process:

[tex]
\theta_{n+1}=\theta_{n}-\frac{f(\theta_{n})}{f'(\theta_{n})}
[/tex]

You have to have an initial stating guess mind you, and you have to work in radians. I would start with an initial guess of [tex]\pi /2[/tex]
 
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Having done the calculation myself (just out of interest), the iteration process out should use is:

[tex]
\theta_{n+1}=\theta_{n}-\frac{\theta_{n}\cos\theta_{n} +\sin 2\theta_{n}\cos\theta_{n}+2}{\cos\theta_{n} (1+2\cos 2\theta_{n} )-\sin\theta_{n} (\theta_{n} +\sin 2\theta_{n} ))}
[/tex]

After about 3 iterations it settled down to the value of [tex]\theta =2.7861[/tex] radians.
 

1. What is a polar equation problem?

A polar equation problem is a mathematical problem that involves converting equations from Cartesian coordinates (x and y) to polar coordinates (r and θ). This is often used in physics and engineering to describe and solve problems involving circular or rotational motion.

2. How is a polar equation problem different from a Cartesian equation problem?

A polar equation problem uses a different coordinate system, where the position of a point is described by a distance from the origin (r) and an angle from the positive x-axis (θ). In contrast, a Cartesian equation problem uses a coordinate system with x and y axes, where the position of a point is described by its x and y coordinates.

3. What are some common examples of polar equation problems?

Polar equation problems are commonly used in physics and engineering, such as in problems involving circular motion, electrical circuits, and antenna design. They are also used in graphing and analyzing polar curves.

4. How do you solve a polar equation problem?

To solve a polar equation problem, you first need to convert the equation from polar coordinates to Cartesian coordinates. This can be done by using trigonometric identities and the relationships between r and θ and x and y. Once the equation is in Cartesian form, you can use algebraic methods to solve for the unknown variables.

5. What are some tips for solving polar equation problems?

Some tips for solving polar equation problems include familiarizing yourself with polar coordinates and their relationship to Cartesian coordinates, using trigonometric identities to convert between the two coordinate systems, and drawing diagrams to visualize the problem. It can also be helpful to break the problem into smaller steps and to check your work by plugging in known values or using a graphing calculator.

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