Position as a function of position?

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The discussion revolves around solving a physics problem involving the acceleration of a particle as a function of position, specifically a(x) = (1.8 s^-2)x. Part a was successfully solved, yielding a speed of 3.65 m/s when the particle moves from x = 1.0 m to x = 2.9 m. However, participants struggled with part b, which requires finding the time taken for the same distance. Clarifications were made regarding integration techniques and the correct form of the equations, leading to the conclusion that the time taken is approximately 1.287 seconds. The conversation highlights the importance of careful integration and the correct application of physics equations in solving motion problems.
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Homework Statement


Here's the problem:

Suppose the acceleration of a particle is a function of x, where a(x) = (1.8 s^-2)x.

a) If the velocity is zero when x = 1.0 m, what is the speed when x = 2.9 m?

b) How long does it take the particle to travel from x = 1.0 m to x = 2.9 m?

Homework Equations



a = dv/dt

v = dx/dt

The Attempt at a Solution



I managed to figure out how to do part a.

a = dv/dt

(dt/dx)a = (dv/dt)(dt/dx)

Since v = dx/dt, the above equation becomes

a(1/v) = dv/dx which becomes

a dx = v dv.

Integrating both sides gives you

v^2 = (1.8s^-2)(x^2) + C (s is seconds)

Since v = 0 when x = 1.0 meters, C = -(1.8s^-2)(m^2) (m is meters)

So the final function is v^2 = (1.8s^-2)(x^2) - (1.8s^-2)(m^2)

Plugging in x = 2.9 m, gives 3.65 m/s which is the correct answer.

I can't figure out part b. I tried using the same approach as in part a to find a "time function" :

v = dx/dt so

dt = (1/v) dx

However. when I integrate this, it doesn't give me the correct answer which is 1.29 s.
Can anyone please help me?
 
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a dx = v dv.
Check the above integration.
You have obtained
v^2/2 = 1.8(s^2)(x - 1)
v = sqrt[2*1.8(s^2)(x - 1)]
dx/dt = sqrt[3.6(s^2)(x - 1)]
dt = dx/sqrt[3.6(s^2)(x - 1)]
Now you can find the integration.
 
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To rl.bhat,

Shouldn't it be (x^2 - 1) instead of (x-1)? And I did the integration. It gives a natural log equation that doesn't give me the right answer
 
The integration adx = ax and integration of vdv = v^2/2. Now proceed.
 
asap9993 said:
To rl.bhat,

Shouldn't it be (x^2 - 1) instead of (x-1)? And I did the integration. It gives a natural log equation that doesn't give me the right answer
To asap9993

Yes, x2‒1

Also, It's v2 like you had, not v2/2.

Altering rl.bhat's solution with those changes gives:

√[1.8(s‒2)]dt = dx/√[(x2 - 1)]
Integrate to get t ≈ 1.287 s
 
SammyS said:
To asap9993

Yes, x2‒1

Also, It's v2 like you had, not v2/2.

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Integration of xn = x(n+1)/(n+1)
 
In asap9993's equation, a dx = v dv, the quantity, a, is not a constant. a = kx, where k=1.8s‒1

So, upon integrating, asap9993 dropped the 2 in the denominator on both sides.

kx·dx = v·dv → kx2/2 + C/2 = v2/2

→ (1.8s‒1)x2 + C = v2 , which is what asap9993 had.
 
OK. That is correct.
 
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