Position vector in spherical coordinates.

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The discussion revolves around determining the position vector of a point on a rotating wheel in spherical coordinates. The wheel has a radius R and rotates in the xy-plane about the z-axis with a specified angular velocity.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the conversion of Cartesian coordinates to spherical coordinates and express uncertainty about the representation of the position vector, particularly the term related to \hat{\phi}. There is also a consideration of how the angular velocity affects the position over time.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on the relationship between angular velocity and the position vector. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the angular velocity, but there is no consensus on how to fully express the position vector in spherical coordinates.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the angular velocity is quadratic, suggesting that the wheel is accelerating, which adds complexity to the problem. There is also mention of the need to account for time dependence in the position vector.

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I have not done this in a while and I am having a brain fart.

Given: A wheel of radius R rotates with angular velocity Ct2 k[tex]\hat{}[/tex] (lies in x-y plane, rotating about z). A point P on the circles is P(x,y,z) = (0,R,0)

Ques: What is the position vector of point P in spherical coordinates?

Ans: Now I know that P(x,y,z) -> P(r,[tex]\theta[/tex],[tex]\phi[/tex],) = (R, [tex]\pi/2[/tex],[tex]\pi/2[/tex])

I want to say P(r,[tex]\theta[/tex],[tex]\phi[/tex],) = R [tex]\hat{r}[/tex] + [tex]\{pi/2}[/tex][tex]\hat{\theta}[/tex] + [tex]\{pi/2}[/tex][tex]\hat{\phi}[/tex], but that tells me P never moves. Considering P is on a spinning disk, it must some how correlate to Ct2 [tex]\hat{k}[/tex]


Maybe I'm just overlooking this. Can some one point me in the right direction?
 
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I cleaned up the presentation a bit, hopefully to make it a bit easier for those that can share some advice.

Given: A wheel of radius R rotates with an angular velocity. The wheel lies in the xy plane, rotating about the z-axis.

[itex]P(x,y,z) = (0,R,0)[/itex]

[tex]\overrightarrow{\omega}= Ct^2\hat{k}[/tex]

Ques: What is the position vector of point P in spherical coordinates?

Ans: Now I know that,

[tex]P(r,\theta,\phi,) = (R,\frac{\pi}{2},\frac{\pi}{2})[/tex]

But I don't think that helps much.

For the position vector, I can't figure out the term for:

[tex]\hat{\phi}[/tex]

I have:

[tex]\overrightarrow{r}= R\ \hat{r}+\frac{\pi}{2}\ \hat{\theta}+\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \hat{\phi}[/tex]

The last term is giving me issues.
 
Now I know that [tex]\phi[/tex] changes with time, so the term must depends on [tex]t[/tex].

I also know that [tex]\omega[/tex] is [tex]rad/s[/tex], which can also be interpreted as [tex]\phi/s[/tex].

But I don't think it is legal to just integrate [tex]\omega[/tex] to get position. Is it?

Since the angular velocity is quadratic, that means the disc is accelerating. So the position should be third order correct?

I'm being really stubborn here because I know it is something minute that is keeping me from progressing.
 

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