Possible to calculate the strength of a nuclear explosion from a photo?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the possibility of calculating the strength of a nuclear explosion from a photograph. Participants explore various methods and considerations involved in such calculations, including historical anecdotes and modern techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Historical, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that knowing the distance of the camera from the explosion is essential for any calculation.
  • One participant references G.I. Taylor's calculation of the yield of the Trinity nuclear test, emphasizing the need for the radius of the fireball at a specific time.
  • Anecdotal evidence is presented regarding Enrico Fermi's method of estimating yield by observing the displacement of a paper scrap during the Trinity test.
  • Another participant expresses appreciation for the dimensional analysis involved in Taylor's calculation, suggesting it yields results in the correct order of magnitude.
  • There is mention of the possibility of calculating the strength of underground nuclear tests from seismic readings, indicating that this method is more complex than the photographic analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the feasibility of calculating explosion strength from a photo, and multiple viewpoints and methods are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that assumptions about distance and timing are critical to the calculations discussed, and the complexity of seismic analysis is acknowledged.

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I read that a student in a physics class was told that one can calculate the strength of a nuclear explosion from the photo of a mushroom cloud from the explosion. I assume the dimensions of the cloud can be determined from the photo.

But what are the details of this calculation?
Details of this calculation from the photo?
 
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To start with you need to know how far away was the camera.
 
I think you're probably referring to G.I. Taylor's calculation of the yield of the Trinity nuclear test using dimensional analysis. Here is a link to that calculation. You need to know the radius of the fireball at a particular time, so you either need a movie, or you need a single still photo with the knowledge of how long after the detonation it was taken.
 
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My favorite was the anecdote about Enrico Fermi at the Trinity test. He estimated the yield by dropping a scrap of paper at the right moment and noting the horizontal displacement before hitting the ground.

Source: I'm not sure but perhaps "The Making of the Atomic Bomb"
 
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I just reviewed the link to the GI Taylor calculation (link above from phyzguy), and I understand the dimensional analysis. I appreciate the approximations made, and so I think that the answer is in the correct order of magnitude.

In fact, I find this calculation very interesting and a useful demonstration of the power of dimensional analysis and basic physics.

Related to this calculation is the claim that we can calculate from seismic readings (modern military seismic network, leftover from the cold war) the strength of an underground nuclear weapon test far away. Like the GI Taylor calculation this is very interesting, but is certainly a more involved calculation.
 

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