Potential energy equation to force equation?

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The discussion revolves around deriving the force equation from the Morse potential energy function for a diatomic molecule, specifically nitrogen (N2). The original poster presents the potential energy equation and seeks to express the force as a function of the separation distance between atoms.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the differentiation of the potential energy function to obtain the force equation. There are questions regarding the correctness of the expression, particularly concerning the sign and the role of the equilibrium distance (re).

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided feedback on the attempts made, noting potential issues with the sign in the derived expression. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct formulation, with participants expressing uncertainty about specific components of the equation.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of an online homework platform, which has indicated errors in the submitted expressions. There is a focus on clarifying the mathematical steps involved in the derivation.

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Homework Statement


The binding potential energy in a diatomic molecule (N2 for example) is often approximated by the Morse potential energy which has the form U(r) = De (1-e^[-a(r-re)])2 where De is a constant that reflects the well depth (dissociation energy), a is a constant that reflects the width of the well, r is the distance between the atoms, and re is the equilibrium distance. Input an expression for the force as a function of the separation distance (r).

Homework Equations


F=-du/dx

The Attempt at a Solution


F=2a*De*[e^(-2a(r-re))-e^-(a(r-re))]
I'm just unsure about the re part. I feel like I'm almost correct.
 
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MattNguyen said:

Homework Statement


The binding potential energy in a diatomic molecule (N2 for example) is often approximated by the Morse potential energy which has the form U(r) = De (1-e^[-a(r-re)])2 where De is a constant that reflects the well depth (dissociation energy), a is a constant that reflects the width of the well, r is the distance between the atoms, and re is the equilibrium distance. Input an expression for the force as a function of the separation distance (r).

Homework Equations


F=-du/dx

The Attempt at a Solution


F=2a*De*[e^(-2a(r-re))-e^-(a(r-re))]
I'm just unsure about the re part. I feel like I'm almost correct.
Looks ok except for the sign.
 
Which sign? I entered it into my online homework and it was wrong so that's why I'm asking.
 
Seems to be correct.
 
Now I have this
2 a De ( Exp ( - 2 a ( r - re ) ) - Exp ( - a ( r -| re ) ) )
and I inputted it and it says there's a sign error. I just have no idea where,
 

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