Potential Energy Stored in latex rubber

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the potential energy that can be stored in latex rubber, particularly in the context of building a rubber band vehicle. Participants explore various methods to calculate or measure this energy, as well as considerations for optimizing rubber band dimensions for performance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a specific value for the potential energy stored in commercially available rubber, expressing interest in practical applications for a rubber band vehicle.
  • Another participant suggests measuring the energy by determining the force and change in length to compute Hooke's constant, followed by calculating energy using the formula E = 0.5*kx^2.
  • A different participant challenges the applicability of Hooke's law to rubber, noting its non-linear rheological behavior and recommending the Mooney-Rivlin equation for a more accurate understanding.
  • Some participants propose that while rubber may not strictly follow Hooke's law, it could still be approximated by plotting weight against stretch distance.
  • One participant advises against using standard rubber bands, suggesting instead to look into FAI competition rubber used in model aircraft, mentioning that rubber properties improve when "run in."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of Hooke's law to rubber, with some advocating for its use while others emphasize the non-linear characteristics of rubber. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to quantify the potential energy stored in rubber.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the limitations of using Hooke's law for rubber and suggest alternative methods and materials, indicating that assumptions about linearity may not hold true in practical applications.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in the mechanics of rubber materials, model vehicle design, and those looking to understand the energy storage capabilities of elastic materials may find this discussion relevant.

simon whitelock
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I am looking for a simple number which is the potential energy that can be stored in rubber. ( Joules per gram or something similar ) I know there are a number of forms of rubber and I keep reading numerous articles on how to calculate the energy content of a rubber band.
Can anyone just tell me the number for typical rubber available commercially ??
I am building a rubber band "vehicle" and I am starting off with a test bed of one band approx 3m long made up of say 50 strands which will run as a model airplane would but driving the rear wheel. I can pretty much work out frictional losses through the drive system and what horsepower I need to get up to certain speeds but before I run the test vehicle on the road I would be interested to compare the theoretical number against that actually achieved.
There must also be a optimum diameter for the band itself expressed as a ratio to the length which I am trying to find out from the modelling world but if anyone has that number I would be grateful to hear it.

Thanks
Simon
 
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You can just measure it.
If you know the force F (weight), and the change in length x, you can compute the Hooke's constant k.
F = -kx

From there you can compute energy: E = 0.5*kx^2

Energy per mass is just E/m. If you want a maximum, hang more and more weight from a rubber band, until it breaks.
Hope this helps.
 
Rubber typically doesn't follow Hooke's law. The observed rheological behavior of rubber is highly non-linear. You need to read some papers on the theory of rubber elasticity. Google Mooney-Rivlin equation.

Chet
 
It might not be linear, but you might be able to approximate. Plot weight vs stretch distance.
 
Don't use rubber bands. Google FAI competition rubber as used for model aircraft. Ditto lubricant. As i recall rubber improves as it is "run in".
 

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