Potential on the axis of a uniformly charged cylinder

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The discussion revolves around calculating the potential on the axis of a uniformly charged solid cylinder, specifically addressing a problem from Griffiths' Introduction to Electrodynamics. The initial approach involved a complex triple integral over the cylinder's volume, which was deemed incorrect. It was clarified that one does not need to compute the potential from a single disk first; instead, correctly setting up the triple integral can yield the same result. Additionally, the confusion between the electric field of a finite versus an infinite cylinder was addressed, emphasizing that the finite cylinder can indeed have a nonzero potential and electric field at the axis. Understanding these distinctions is crucial for accurately solving the problem.
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Homework Statement


Posting here because it was over a previous homework assignment and I don't understand the solution that was given out. For reference, the problem is 2.27 is Griffiths' Introduction to Electrodynamics. It reads "Find the potential on the axis of a uniformly charged solid cylinder, a distance z from the center. The length of the cylinder is L, its radius is R, and the charge density is ρ. Use your result to calculate the electric field and this point. (Assume z > L/2.)

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V(r) = - (1/4πε_o) * ∫ (ρ(r')/(√(r-r'))) dτ'

The Attempt at a Solution



Initially when I had tried it, I just went straight for this integral over the volume, setting r' = s' s_hat + z' z_hat and r = z z_hat, and for a cylinder dτ' = s'ds'dφ'dz'. I set up the integral, it got messy, etc. It was very wrong essentially, marked "See Solutions" on my paper. In the solutions, the problem started with finding the potential of a singular disk, using the surface charge density, then after finding the potential for a singular disk, integrating again over the volume to find the complete potential of the cylinder at this point. My questions are:

1) Do you have to compute the potential from a single disk first? Or did I just compute/setup my integral incorrectly, and the solution is just a different way of doing this?

2) Normally when we talk about the electric field through a cylinder, we say that it points radially outward, and not through the faces. So why then, if this point is on the axis meaning above one of the faces, are we finding a nonzero potential and nonzero electric field?
 
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acrimius said:
1) Do you have to compute the potential from a single disk first? Or did I just compute/setup my integral incorrectly, and the solution is just a different way of doing this?
You don't have to compute the potential from a charged disk first. Think about it. If you set up the triple integral correctly and you do the angular integral first, and then the radial integral you will be left with a single integral over z which is adding disks. So finding the disk potential first is the same as doing the triple integral in two steps.
acrimius said:
Normally when we talk about the electric field through a cylinder, we say that it points radially outward
It looks like you are confusing the infinite cylinder (or wire) with the finite cylinder. The latter is the case here.
 
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