Power/Work problem with some Newton's Second Law

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The discussion revolves around calculating the power delivered while lifting a 6.7-kg box using a pulley system. For part (a), the power at a constant speed of 2.0 m/s is correctly calculated as 0.131 kW. In part (b), the average power when lifting the box with constant acceleration over 1.6 m in 0.42 s is initially miscalculated, leading to confusion. The key correction involves recognizing that the power should be based on the force exerted by the person, not just the net force acting on the box. The final correct average power for part (b) is 0.713 kW.
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Homework Statement


A 6.7-kg box is being lifted by means of a light rope that is threaded through a single, light, frictionless pulley that is attached to the ceiling.
(a) If the box is being lifted at a constant speed of 2.0 m/s, what is the power delivered by the person pulling on the rope?

Correct answer: 0.131 kW

(b) If the box is lifted, at constant acceleration, from rest on the floor to a height of 1.6 m above the floor in 0.42 s, what average power is delivered by the person pulling on the rope?

Correct answer: 0.713 kW

Homework Equations



W=|F||d|cos(θ)
Power = Work/Time
∑F = ma

The Attempt at a Solution



For a, I've solved correctly;
P=T*v = Tvcos(Θ)
P=T*v (cos(0°) = 1, so I removed it)

∑F = ma
a = 0
∑F = T - W = T- (m*g) = 0
∑F = T - (6.7kg*9.81 m/s^2) = 0
T = 65.727 N
P = 65.727 N * 2.0 m/s = 131.454 W = .131454 kW

for b, I'm doing something wrong;

I started with using the a kinematic equation to solve for a

s = V(o)t + .5at^2

1.6m/(.5*(0.42s)^2) = a = 18.14058957 m/s^2

F = ma
F = 6.7kg(18.14058957 m/s^2) = 121.5419501 N
Work = |F||d|
W = 121.5419501 N * 1.6 m = 194.4671202 J
P = Work/time
P = 194.4671202 J / .42 s = 463.0169528 W = .4630169528 kW

Which is obviously wrong from the correct answer that is given...any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
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StormDuck said:

Homework Statement


A 6.7-kg box is being lifted by means of a light rope that is threaded through a single, light, frictionless pulley that is attached to the ceiling.
(a) If the box is being lifted at a constant speed of 2.0 m/s, what is the power delivered by the person pulling on the rope?

Correct answer: 0.131 kW

(b) If the box is lifted, at constant acceleration, from rest on the floor to a height of 1.6 m above the floor in 0.42 s, what average power is delivered by the person pulling on the rope?

Correct answer: 0.713 kW


Homework Equations



W=|F||d|cos(θ)
Power = Work/Time
∑F = ma


The Attempt at a Solution



For a, I've solved correctly;
P=T*v = Tvcos(Θ)
P=T*v (cos(0°) = 1, so I removed it)

∑F = ma
a = 0
∑F = T - W = T- (m*g) = 0
∑F = T - (6.7kg*9.81 m/s^2) = 0
T = 65.727 N
P = 65.727 N * 2.0 m/s = 131.454 W = .131454 kW

for b, I'm doing something wrong;

I started with using the a kinematic equation to solve for a

s = V(o)t + .5at^2

1.6m/(.5*(0.42s)^2) = a = 18.14058957 m/s^2

F = ma
F = 6.7kg(18.14058957 m/s^2) = 121.5419501 N
Work = |F||d|
W = 121.5419501 N * 1.6 m = 194.4671202 J
P = Work/time
P = 194.4671202 J / .42 s = 463.0169528 W = .4630169528 kW

Which is obviously wrong from the correct answer that is given...any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
In part b when using Newton 2, you have calculated the net force acting on the box. But the problem is looking power delivered by the man's force.
 
PhanthomJay said:
In part b when using Newton 2, you have calculated the net force acting on the box. But the problem is looking power delivered by the man's force.

Thanks a ton, that was all I needed, coming up with the right answer now.
 
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