Pressure Difference Between the Inside and Outside of a Balloon

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The discussion focuses on calculating the strength required for a balloon material to withstand pressure differences, specifically comparing internal pressures of 10 atm to external pressures of 1 atm and 0.1 atm. The equation provided for biaxial tensile stress in a spherical balloon is relevant for determining material strength, but its applicability to different materials like mylar, rubber, and others is questioned. The conversation also touches on the implications for materials used in astronaut space suits, indicating a broader interest in material science. The left-side symbol in the equation represents stress, which can be compared to the yield stress of various materials to ensure safety and functionality. Understanding these principles is crucial for designing effective pressure-resistant structures.
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Hello all. I have a question about gasses and pressure: Is there a way to calculate how strong a material making up a balloon has to be to withstand a given pressure difference between the inside and outside?

In other words, if I have a balloon I need to fill to a pressure of 10atm inside vs 1atm outside the balloon, is there a way to calculate how strong the material needs to be to withstand this difference in pressure?

What if I took that same balloon and put it into a vacuum chamber (lowering from 1atm to say 0.1atm outside the balloon)?
 
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The biaxial tensile stress in the balloon rubber of a spherical balloon is given by $$\sigma=\frac{(\Delta p) r_0}{2h_0}\left(\frac{r}{r_0}\right)^3$$where ##r_0## and ##h_0## are the radius and material thickness when the internal pressure only slightly exceeds the external pressure and r is the balloon radius when the balloon is at full pressure. Is this what you were looking for? Or is this a mylar balloon?
 
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Thank you for the response. That equation is helpful for me.

What would change for the equation if it were mylar? I was really only using a balloon as an example. I am actually curious about using any material (be that rubber, mylar, steel, plastics, glass...). Does this equation work for any material?

It may be helpful to know my original thoughts before posting this were specifically in reference to an astronaught’s space suit. I thought maybe a balloon would just be a place to start.
 
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Thank you for the response. That equation is helpful for me.

What would change for the equation if it were mylar? I was really only using a balloon as an example. I am actually curious about using any material (be that rubber, mylar, steel, plastics, glass...). Does this equation work for any material?

It may be helpful to know my original thoughts before posting this were specifically in reference to an astronaught’s space suit. I thought maybe a balloon would just be a place to start.
If the material comprising the balloon doesn't stretch significantly, then the term involving r/ro is unity.
 
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Thank you for taking the time to answer my question.

One last thing: what does the symbol on the left-side of the equation mean?
 
The symbol on the left stands for stress, the value of which can be compared against the yield stress of different materials
 
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