Probability Mass Functions of Binomial Variables

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The discussion revolves around finding the probability mass function (PMF) of the sum of two independent binomial random variables, X and Y, and the conditional PMF of X given that X+Y equals a certain value m. The subject area is probability theory, specifically focusing on binomial distributions and their properties.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the concept of the PMF of the sum of independent discrete random variables and mention the term "convolution." There is an attempt to relate the problem to the practical interpretation of binomial distributions through coin flipping experiments.

Discussion Status

Some participants are seeking clarification on specific terms and concepts, while others provide insights that guide understanding of the problem. There is a recognition that the first part of the problem may not require extensive computation, and alternative methods for approaching the second part are suggested.

Contextual Notes

One participant expresses uncertainty about the term "convolution," indicating a potential gap in understanding necessary for addressing the problem fully. The discussion reflects varying levels of familiarity with the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement


Let X and Y be independent binomial random variables with parameters n and p.
Find the PMF of X+Y.
Find the conditional PMF of X given that X+Y=m.


Homework Equations


The PMF of X is P(X=k)=(n C k)pk(1-p)n-k
The PMF for Y would be the same.

The Attempt at a Solution


I am really not sure how to go about solving this problem though I have been told that the first part can be done with no computation or calculations at all. Not sure at all on the second part.
 
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Do you know anything in general about the PMF of the sum of two independent discrete random variables? Does "convolution" ring a bell?

If not, don't worry about it. Think about what a binomial distribution with parameters n and p means. You can think of it as the number of "heads" resulting from flipping a coin n times, where the probability of "head" is p. If you do that experiment TWICE, independently, and the results are X and Y, respectively, then X + Y is equivalent to simply flipping the coin 2n times, right? What's the PMF for that experiment?
 
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Hmm, not that I know of.
I haven't heard the term convolution before.
Could you provide me with a definition?
 
Kalinka35 said:
Hmm, not that I know of.
I haven't heard the term convolution before.
Could you provide me with a definition?

You need it to answer the question in general (for arbitrary PMFs), but don't worry about it in this case - for this particular example you can solve it another way (see my edited post above).
 
Ah yes, I understand it now.
Thanks very much for your clear explanation.
 

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