Problem involving square / square root of a complex number

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The problem involves finding the value of n in the equation z = (n + i)², given that arg(z) = π/3. The solution process includes using the relationship between the arguments of complex numbers, specifically that arg(z^(1/2)) = (1/2)arg(z). By setting the arguments equal, the equation leads to arctan(1/n) = π/6. Solving this gives n = √3, confirming the initial answer. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding the properties of complex arguments in solving such problems.
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Homework Statement
z = (n + i)^{2}

n is a positive real number, and arg(z) = \frac{\pi}{3}

Find the value of n.

The attempt at a solution

I am reviewing old problem sets from years past, and came across this problem that appears pretty simple. I have my old answer as n=\sqrt{3}, which I can verify numerically as the correct answer. The problem is that I no longer remember the solution, and think I am missing a simple solution to this. We know the following:

z^{1/2} = n + i
arg(n + i) = arctan(\frac{1}{n})
tan(arg(z)) = \sqrt{3}

I think there must be some way to compare the arguments of the 2 sides and use the given fact that arg(z) = \frac{\pi}{3} for a simple solution, but I don't see what it is. I am not sure how to deal with the square in the original problem statement, or the square root in my first equation.
 
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If x is a complex number, how is arg(x) related to arg(x^2)? exp(it)^2=exp(2it), right?
 
Expand the right-hand side of the equation and compare the tangent of the arguments of both sides.

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So in my case:
arg(z^{1/2})=\frac{1}{2}arg(z)
Then if we take z^{1/2}=n+i and set the argument of each side equal, we have:
arg(z^{1/2})=arg(n+i)
\frac{1}{2}\frac{\pi}{3}=arctan(\frac{1}{n})
\frac{\pi}{6} = arctan(\frac{1}{n})
Taking the tangent of both sides:
\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}=\frac{1}{n}
Thus:
n=\sqrt{3}
 
shillist said:
So in my case:
arg(z^{1/2})=\frac{1}{2}arg(z)
Then if we take z^{1/2}=n+i and set the argument of each side equal, we have:
arg(z^{1/2})=arg(n+i)
\frac{1}{2}\frac{\pi}{3}=arctan(\frac{1}{n})
\frac{\pi}{6} = arctan(\frac{1}{n})
Taking the tangent of both sides:
\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}=\frac{1}{n}
Thus:
n=\sqrt{3}

That's it. We can be a little bit sloppy about 2*pi factors in the arg because we know that 0<arg(1+n)<pi/2.
 
Thanks for the help!
 
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