Problem with the weigth of the moment arm

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total mass required for equilibrium in a system involving a rod with a counterweight and a hanging mass. The rod weighs 400g, and the counterweight is 1600g, with the handle positioned at 12.0cm from the pivot. The user initially calculated the effective length of the handle and attempted to determine the mass of the hanging weight needed for balance. A suggestion was made to consider the uniform mass distribution of the rod and its center of mass, leading to further calculations. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding moments and equilibrium in physics.
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Hi
A rod comprises a counterweight (a) a handle and a hook which hangs mass (m), the rods mass is 400g counterweight mass (a) = 1600g and the rod is 0.8m long. Equilibrium exists when the handle is at position X = 12.0cm

How I did

1: calculated the length of the handle to (m) which was 0.68m
2: figured kg from 1.6 kg * 0.12 = 0.192 kg
3 0.192 = 0.68*m
but how do you do with the rod weighs 400g how do I calculate it??
The question is to calculate the total mass of (m) to obtain equilibrium
hope you understand the language and metrics, used google translate, did work out that great, but I´m loosing time

regards fredrik
 
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Consider a uniform horizontal rod length L pivoted at one end. Using calculus:
An element length dx at distance x from the pivot has mass ρdx. What is its moment about the pivot? Can you integrate that to get the total moment?
Or, without calculus, where is the mass centre of the rod?
 
Oki now I see, its in its center then You just calculated it to the handle..
0.8/2-0.12=0.28
0.4kg*0.28=0.112kg

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