Programatically measure air pressure within a piston

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around measuring air pressure within a piston-style apparatus, focusing on the selection of appropriate sensors for real-time pressure variation monitoring. Participants explore practical applications, sensor specifications, and theoretical considerations related to pressure measurement in this experimental setup.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks recommendations for a pressure sensor with a supported SDK to measure real-time variations in air pressure within a piston.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for details on pressure ranges, temperatures, response rates, and attachment methods for selecting an appropriate sensor.
  • A participant mentions the atmospheric pressure at sea level and expresses uncertainty about the expected positive and negative pressure deltas during compression and release.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the suitability of a linked sensor, which is identified as a switch rather than a digital pressure sensor capable of providing continuous readings.
  • One participant questions the clarity of the original poster's measurement goals and suggests that they may be overlooking existing solutions.
  • Another participant insists on the necessity of providing ballpark figures for the expected measurements to facilitate sensor selection.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specific sensor requirements or the theoretical aspects of the pressure measurement. Multiple competing views regarding the approach to sensor selection and measurement goals remain evident.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of specific details on the desired pressure range, accuracy, and the exact nature of the measurements being sought. The discussion also reflects uncertainty about the practical application of the proposed sensors.

Richard Norbron
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I am a software engineer. I am working on an experimental project to attempt
to measure in real time the variation in air pressure (relative to the ambient
pressure of the room) in a piston style apparatus. In this model, I am expectant that there will be a measureable change in the internal pressure as the surrounding air is compressed. I am no clearly physician, so looking
to purchase a sensor with a supported SDK. That way I can calibrate the readings
within software and produce a real time graph of the variations resulting
from compressing the space within the cyclinder. I am seeking recommendations
as to the type of sensor readings I would need to measure and an idea of the type
of physical sensor I should be looking to purchase. I am hoping the sensor will
be reasonable in price as this is just an experiment, which might have an actual
real world application. Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions.
 
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To select a pressure sensor we need information about pressures , temperatures , response rates and means of attachment .

It may be possible to determine what happens in the cylinder theoretically - have you considered this ?
 
Thanks for response. This is more of a practical experiment than a theoretical one. I am currently investigation various solutions, but am uncertain as to whether the types of gear I am looking at are suitable for application. I read that the atmospheric air pressure is at sea level is defined as 1013 mbar, 101.3 (kPa), 1.013 bar, which is about 14.7 Pounds per square inch (PSI). I need to determine the likely positive and negative delta I could reasonably expect in a cylinder as the air is both compressed to maximum and released as a minimum. I realize this hasn't addressed your questions for which I apologise, but like I said I am working with unknowns at this point. I am wondering if something as simple as this type of sensor would suffice (http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/pressure-sensors/3987045/).
 
Clearly the example provided is not digital, but you get the idea. Ideally I am looking for a digital sensor that can handle the types of pressure deltas expected and support those readings through an exposed SDK.
 
You haven't mentioned the range you wish to measure nor the accuracy you want.

The sensor you linked to is a switch, it simply tells you if the pressure is above or below a certain amount (closed/open). From your earlier post I assumed you want to do a pressure reading.
 
Richard Norbron said:
Thanks for response. This is more of a practical experiment than a theoretical one. I am currently investigation various solutions, but am uncertain as to whether the types of gear I am looking at are suitable for application.
Can you provide more detail about what you are trying to measure, how you are trying to measure it and why? It sounds like you are trying to reinvent the wheel here, but I'm not even really sure of that. I don't want to get into an endless "will this one work?" loop, but there are of course thousands of different pressure measuring devices out there for different purposes.
 
Even if you have unknowns, you have to be able to put some ballpark numbers out.
 

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