Projectile Launching Problem. Solve with kinematics

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The discussion revolves around calculating the initial speed of a cow launched from a catapult, given its mass, horizontal distance traveled, and vertical drop. Key equations of motion are highlighted, particularly the need to separate horizontal and vertical components of motion. Participants clarify the correct use of trigonometric functions for velocity components and emphasize that mass is irrelevant in kinematic equations. The complexity of the calculations is acknowledged, with suggestions to derive time of flight and connect horizontal and vertical equations for a solution. The conversation reflects a collaborative effort to solve a challenging projectile motion problem.
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Homework Statement



A cow, with a mass of 327 kg, if fired from a medieval catapault, and travels a horizontal distance of 1375 m. It lands in a depression 39 m below its starting position. If it is launched at an angle of 37.0\circ above the horizontal, find its initial speed.

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HOR
\Delta dx= 1375
V1x= ?
ax= 0m/s2
v2x=v1x

VER
\Delta dy= -39 m
v1y= ?
ay= -9.81m/s2
v2y=?

\Delta T=?

Homework Equations


<br /> v^2 = v_0^2 + 2 a \Delta x<br />
<br /> x = x_0 + v_0 t + (1/2) a t^2<br />
<br /> v^2 = v_0^2 + 2 a \Delta x<br />

The Attempt at a Solution



I multiplied my vertical and horizontal displacements by 39.0* (i.e. dx= 1375*cos37) but I am not sure if this is right or if I should only use that for the velocity's only. Also I am not sure where to go from here all relevant equations require at least v1x,v2x,v1y,v2y and/or t. One last thing, I am not sure how mass is to be used as I am suppose to solve with kinematics, not forces but I could be wrong. Any help is appreciated! Thanks!
 
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"I multiplied my vertical and horizontal displacements by 39.0* (i.e. dx= 1375*cos37)"

I don't really understand what you're doing here. If you denote the initial speed as V and you know the angle of launch is 37 degrees, then the initial horizontal component of velocity is Vcos37. Likewise, the initial vertical component is Vsin37. I don't see why you need to multiply the range(horizontal displacement) by cos37.

Oh, and in your "Relevant equations", I think you meant your first eqn to be: v = v_0 + at.

As with most projectile motions questions, you use those equations on the x and y directions to obtain 2 expressions. You can then link these expressions together to obtain your answer.

I think the working out is going to get rather messy for this particular question though.
 
quanticism said:
I don't really understand what you're doing here. If you denote the initial speed as V and you know the angle of launch is 37 degrees, then the initial horizontal component of velocity is Vcos37. Likewise, the initial vertical component is Vsin37. I don't see why you need to multiply the range(horizontal displacement) by cos37.

I am sorry, after I posted this I realized that this would do nothing. I just tried something because I was running out of ideas. My only other idea would be to use this equation for y as max height for v2y is 0 m/s. (Correct me if this is wrong)
<br /> <br /> v1y^2 = v_0^2 + 2 a \Delta x<br /> <br />

but eliminate v_0^2.
 
My hint would be to use:

v^{2} = u^{2} + 2(a)(s)
v = u + at

(Here , v = final velocity, u = initial velocity, a = acceleration, s = displacement)

on the vertical direction to find an expression for the time of flight. Alternately, you could use equation 2 directly to find the time but you'll need to solve a rather messy quadratic.

Then use equation 2 on the horizontal direction and everything should fall into place.

I believe the working out will become messy so if anyone has more elegant ways of doing it, please post.
 
quanticism said:
My hint would be to use:

v^{2} = u^{2} + 2(a)(s)
v = u + at

(Here , v = final velocity, u = initial velocity, a = acceleration, s = displacement)

on the vertical direction to find an expression for the time of flight. Alternately, you could use equation 2 directly to find the time but you'll need to solve a rather messy quadratic.

Then use equation 2 on the horizontal direction and everything should fall into place.

Thank you very much!
What I did for here was make a equation for time of flight
dx=v1*cos37* t +1/2 at^2
1375=v1x*cos37*t
\Delta t= 1372/v1*cos37


now that i have \Delta t I have inserted it into my vertical equation so
dy=v1y*cos37* t +1/2 at^2
-39=v1*sin37*(1372/v1*cos37) + 1/2 (-9.81)(1372/v1*cos37)^2
Vsin37= -4.905(1372/v1*cos37)^2(-39) /(1372/v1*cos37)


I'm going to play around with this and update with new info. You're right in saying this is a messy equation haha. Thanks again!
 
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