Projectile motion motorcycle jump

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The discussion revolves around calculating the take-off speed of a motorcycle jump, specifically using the range equation and constant acceleration equations. The problem states that the motorcycle jumps a distance of 77.0 m at an angle of 12.0º, with take-off and landing heights being equal. The user initially struggles with determining time and final velocity components but receives guidance on expressing time in terms of horizontal motion. Ultimately, the user successfully solves the problem and acknowledges the importance of thinking ahead in similar physics problems.
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Homework Statement


The current world-record motorcycle jump is 77.0 m,
set by Jason Renie. Assume that he left the take-off ramp at
12.0º to the horizontal and that the take-off and landing
heights are the same. Neglecting air drag, determine his take-off
speed

Homework Equations


R = [(v0)^2/g]*sin2(theta)
5 constant acceleration equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Hi. I understand that I can use the range equation to solve this question, but I wanted to try and use the constant acceleration equations to try and understand it a little better, however I'm getting stuck.

Let u = the take off speed (magnitude of velocity vector)

u_x = ucos(12)
x_i = 0
x_f = 77
a_x = 0
t = ?

u_y = usin(12)
a = -9.8
y_i = 0
y_f = 0

I get stuck here because I don't know the time or final velocity components (not really sure how to use v_f = 0 for half the flight time either)
 
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nothingsus said:
Let u = the take off speed (magnitude of velocity vector)

u_x = ucos(12)
x_i = 0
x_f = 77
a_x = 0
t = ?

u_y = usin(12)
a = -9.8
y_i = 0
y_f = 0

I get stuck here because I don't know the time or final velocity components (not really sure how to use v_f = 0 for half the flight time either)

You need to think a move or two ahead. These problems don't always come out in one step. You put ##t = ?## but you should keep going with ##t = \frac{x_f}{u \cos \theta}##

Now, try to find a second expression for ##t## using the vertical component. You can do it either by using the time to the maximum height (where ##v_y = 0##) and symmetry of the motion. Or, you could use ##s_y = u_yt + \frac{a_y t^2}{2}## for vertical motion.
 
With your help I was able to solve it! I'll try to think further ahead for future problems.

Thanks so much!
 
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