Projectile Motion, only given horizontal distance

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the initial speed of a football based on a given horizontal distance of 85.8 meters, with no angle specified. The context is projectile motion, particularly focusing on the relationship between distance, angle, and initial velocity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of having only the horizontal distance without an angle, leading to multiple potential solutions. One participant suggests choosing a common angle, such as 45 degrees, to simplify the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion has explored the ambiguity of the problem due to the lack of an angle. Some participants have provided guidance on assuming a 45-degree angle, which is noted as a common approach for maximizing range in projectile motion. There is acknowledgment of the confusion caused by the wording of the question.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem's wording could lead to different interpretations, and the absence of an explicit angle creates uncertainty in determining the initial speed accurately.

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Homework Statement


The longest pass in history is 85.8m. Ignoring any air resistance effects, calculate the initial speed of football.

Homework Equations


Vx=Vo cosΘ
x=VcosΘt
Vy=VosinΘ -gt
y= VosinΘt - 0.5gt^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I really don't know what to do here. I've looked through all my notes and book and haven't seen any problems like this (with no angle). Every time I try to rearrange and substitute equations I still end up with 2 unknowns. It would be great if someone could point me in the right direction.[/B]
 
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Are you sure 85.8m is all you're given? There will be many answers if you only have 85.8m as the distance because the magnitude of the initial velocity will be dependent on the angle. In this case, I'd first ask your teacher and if not, just choose a random angle 90>x>0 (most likely 45 degrees for simplicity).
 
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Yeah that's all the question had. You might be right about that, the "longest pass in history" could be implying a 45 degree angle since I remember him saying that a 45 angle would give the greatest range. It would have been nice for him to actually state that in the question though. I'll try to work it out tomorrow (it's 1 AM and I've been pondering it for far too long tonight) like that and see how it goes. Thanks for the help!
 
Np, good night.
 
Well I managed to work it out, you were right! I assumed an angle of 45 degrees and got the right answer pretty quickly after that using the range formula. Really appreciate the guidance!
 
Yep I would assume that assuming 45 degrees would be the best way to approach the problem. Given the way its worded though, it would be a bit confusing.
 

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