Proof of Wheatstone bridge equation

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The discussion revolves around proving an equation related to the Wheatstone bridge, specifically concerning the change in potential energy (\(\Delta U\)) as a function of resistance changes (\(\Delta R_i\)). The participants explore the implications of resistance variations on voltage outputs in a circuit setup.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between voltage dividers and the Wheatstone bridge, questioning how changes in resistance affect the overall voltage. There is an exploration of the implications of the equation for \(\Delta U\) and how to incorporate \(\Delta R_i\) into the calculations. Some participants suggest using partial derivatives to analyze changes in voltage due to resistance variations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their reasoning and calculations. Some have offered insights into the interpretation of \(\Delta U\) and its relationship to voltage differences. There is an ongoing examination of the mathematical expressions involved, with no clear consensus yet on the final form of the equation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the assumption that \(\Delta R_i\) represents a change in one resistance, and there is a discussion about the implications of this assumption on the overall voltage calculations. The context of the problem includes the need to clarify the definitions and relationships between the variables involved.

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Homework Statement



Prove the following equation:

## \Delta U=\frac {R_1R_4}{(R_1+R_4)^2}(\frac {\Delta R_1}{R_1}-\frac {\Delta R_2}{R_2}+\frac{\Delta R_3}{R_3}-\frac{\Delta R_4}{R_4})E##

This is used in Wheatstone bridge

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Homework Equations


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U=RI

The Attempt at a Solution


This has been a real head-scratcher

Two voltage dividers can be found for starters. Voltage's direction is assumed to be clockwise

##V_{in1}=I_2(R_2+R_3)##

##I_2=\frac{V_{in1}}{R_2+R_3}##

##V_{out1}=I_2R_3##

##V_{out1}=V_{in1}\frac{R_3}{R_2+R_3}##

Similarly:

##V_{out2}=V_{in1}\frac{R_4}{R_1+R_4}##

##V_G## is voltage between A and B

##V_{out1}-V_{out2}=V_G##

##V_{in1}\frac{R_3}{R_2+R_3}-V_{in1}\frac{R_4}{R_1+R_4}=V_G##

##V_{in1}(\frac{R_3}{R_2+R_3}-\frac{R_4}{R_1+R_4})=V_G##

##V_{in1}=E##

##V_G=\Delta U## so then

##E(\frac{R_3}{R_2+R_3}-\frac{R_4}{R_1+R_4})=\Delta U##

I have calculated voltages in different circuits and tried to think this problem in different ways, but the real problem is that how is ##\Delta R_i## inserted into equations. Assumption goes that it is added by ##R_i+\Delta R_i##. Maybe that is incorrect?

Help is very much appreciated!

edit: Misspelling corrected

Also particularizing that ##\Delta R_i## is a change in one resistance
 

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whatdoido said:
that ##\Delta R_i## is a change in one resistance
Which suggests that the Δ in ΔU refers to the consequent change in U, not to the potential difference between A and B at a given set of R values.
 
haruspex said:
Which suggests that the Δ in ΔU refers to the consequent change in U, not to the potential difference between A and B at a given set of R values.
Yes that is true, ##\Delta U## is zero before the change of resistances.
 
whatdoido said:
Yes that is true, ##\Delta U## is zero before the change of resistances.
So this equation:
##E(\frac{R_3}{R_2+R_3}-\frac{R_4}{R_1+R_4})=\Delta U##
Should read
##E(\frac{R_3}{R_2+R_3}-\frac{R_4}{R_1+R_4})=U##
and you need a different expression for ##\Delta U##.
 
Right now I'm trying to figure out why this would not be possible:

##E(\frac{R_3+\Delta R_3}{R_2+\Delta R_2+R_3+\Delta R_3}-\frac{R_4+\Delta R_4}{R_1+\Delta R_1+R_4+\Delta R_4})=\Delta U##

I can simplify it a bit, but is this the right way to go
 
whatdoido said:
Right now I'm trying to figure out why this would not be possible:

##E(\frac{R_3+\Delta R_3}{R_2+\Delta R_2+R_3+\Delta R_3}-\frac{R_4+\Delta R_4}{R_1+\Delta R_1+R_4+\Delta R_4})=\Delta U##

I can simplify it a bit, but is this the right way to go
I do not see how you get that. It looks wrong.
You have an equation for U (second eqn in post #4). Write out the corresponding eqn for U+ΔU.
 
haruspex said:
I do not see how you get that. It looks wrong.
You have an equation for U (second eqn in post #4). Write out the corresponding eqn for U+ΔU.
Now that I thought about it, simply adding the change does not make so much sense.

But then I got an idea to take partial derivates since it is about change. Adding those partial derivates together should give the overall change in voltage.

##U=E(\frac{R_3}{R_2+R_3}-\frac{R_4}{R_1+R_4})##

Seems like marking ##U## as ##U_{BA}## is needed since I took potential difference with ##V_{out1}-V_{out2}=V_G##

##U_{BA}=(\frac{R_3}{R_2+R_3}-\frac{R_4}{R_1+R_4})E##

This should be legal: ##\Delta U_{BA}=dU_{BA}##

Thus ##dU_{BA}=\frac {\partial} {\partial R_1}U_{BA}\Delta R_1+\frac {\partial} {\partial R_2}U_{BA}\Delta R_2+\frac {\partial} {\partial R_3}U_{BA}\Delta R_3+\frac {\partial} {\partial R_4}U_{BA}\Delta R_4##

Solving partial derivates each:

##\frac {\partial} {\partial R_1}U_{BA}\Delta R_1=\frac {\partial} {\partial R_1}(\frac{R_3}{R_2+R_3}-\frac{R_4}{R_1+R_4})E\Delta R_1=-\frac {R_4}{(R_1+R_4)^2}E\Delta R_1##

##\frac {\partial} {\partial R_2}U_{BA}\Delta R_2=\frac {\partial} {\partial R_2}(\frac{R_3}{R_2+R_3}-\frac{R_4}{R_1+R_4})E\Delta R_2=\frac{R_3}{(R_2+R_3)^2}E\Delta R_2##

##\frac {\partial} {\partial R_3}U_{BA}\Delta R_3=\frac {\partial} {\partial R_3}(\frac{R_3}{R_2+R_3}-\frac{R_4}{R_1+R_4})E\Delta R_3=-\frac{R_2}{(R_2+R_3)^2}E\Delta R_3##

##\frac {\partial} {\partial R_4}U_{BA}\Delta R_4=\frac {\partial} {\partial R_4}(\frac{R_3}{R_2+R_3}-\frac{R_4}{R_1+R_4})E\Delta R_4=\frac{R_1}{(R_1+R_4)^2}E\Delta R_4##

##dU_{BA}=-\frac {R_4}{(R_1+R_4)^2}E\Delta R_1+\frac{R_3}{(R_2+R_3)^2}E\Delta R_2-\frac{R_2}{(R_2+R_3)^2}E\Delta R_3+\frac{R_1}{(R_1+R_4)^2}E\Delta R_4##

##dU_{BA}=(-\frac{R_4}{R_1(1+\frac{R_4}{R_1})^2}\frac{\Delta R_1}{R_1}+\frac{R_3}{R_2(1+\frac{R_4}{R_1})^2}\frac{\Delta R_2}{R_2}-\frac{R_2}{R_3(1+\frac{R_1}{R_4})^2}\frac{\Delta R_3}{R_3}+\frac{R_1}{R_4(1+\frac{R_1}{R_4})^2}\frac{\Delta R_4}{R_4})E##

I just kept playing with the identity ##\frac{R_2}{R_3}=\frac{R_1}{R_4}## and I got:

##dU_{BA}=\frac{R_1R_4}{(R_1+R_4)^2}(-\frac{\Delta R_1}{R_1}+\frac{\Delta R_2}{R_2}-\frac{\Delta R_3}{R_3}+\frac{\Delta R_4}{R_4})E##

It has wrong signs because of ##V_{out1}-V_{out2}=V_G##

So I think the equation is about ##U_{AB}##

##\Delta U_{AB}=dU_{AB}=-dU_{BA}=-\frac{R_1R_4}{(R_1+R_4)^2}(-\frac{\Delta R_1}{R_1}+\frac{\Delta R_2}{R_2}-\frac{\Delta R_3}{R_3}+\frac{\Delta R_4}{R_4})E##

##=\frac{R_1R_4}{(R_1+R_4)^2}(\frac{\Delta R_1}{R_1}-\frac{\Delta R_2}{R_2}+\frac{\Delta R_3}{R_3}-\frac{\Delta R_4}{R_4})E##
 
Looks good.
 

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