Maximum Positron Energy in Proton Fusion and Beta + Decay

In summary, the attempt at a solution for the maximum energy that the positron can have was to use the binding energy of deuteron and calculate the minimum energy the proton would need to decay to a neutron. The energy i got was 0.914MeV.
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Homework Statement


Consider;
[tex]p+p \rightarrow d + e^+ + \nu_e[/tex]

Assume the binding energy of deuteron is 2.2MeV, calculate the maximum energy that the positron can have.

Homework Equations


[itex]m_p=938.28MeV/c^2[/itex]
[itex]m_n=939.566MeV/c^2[/itex]
[itex]m_d=1875.6MeV/c^2[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution


Assuming the neutrino was at rest after the colision for maximum positron energy.

So basically two process's go on, the [itex]\beta^+[/itex] decay of one of the protons, then the fusion of the neutron and remaining proton.

[tex] (1) \quad p \rightarrow n + e^+ +\nu_e [/tex]
[tex](2) \quad p+n \rightarrow d [/tex]

The Q value of the decay:
[itex] Q=(m_p)c^2-(m_n)c^2=-1.286MeV [/itex]
this is the minimum energy the proton would need to decay to a neutron?

so the energy i got was;
[tex] T_{e^+}=2.2-1.286=0.914MeV [/tex]
where the 2.2 is the energy released from (2)?

But I am not sure i think this is wrong, but don't quite understand.
 
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Fusion plus decay is one single process. If you want to split it into parts (which does not help here), fusion would have to happen first, otherwise the decay could not happen at all.
 
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Ah thank you, I just don't quite understand where to begin, would I need to find the energy from the decay of the bound protons, to the bound neutron and proton?
 
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All you need is the binding energy of 2.2 MeV and particle masses for kinematics. Neglect the initial kinetic energy of the protons, and find a way to distribute the 2.2 MeV over the reaction products for the maximal positron energy.
 
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Oh I see, so treat it as a relativistic kinematic problem;

Energy conservation;
[tex] Q=\frac{1}{2}m_d v_d^2+\gamma_{e^+} m_{e^+} v_{e^+} [/tex]
Because the deuteron mass would be larger than the portion it would get from 2.2MeV.

Conservation of momentum;
[tex]m_d v_d = m_{e^+}v_{e^+}[/tex]
 
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Check the formula for the positron energy.
Apart from that, the approach is right.
 
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Oh yes it's [itex]c^2[/itex] not [itex]v^2[/itex] thank you!
 
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Okay so I got;

[tex] E_{e^+}=Q-\frac{m_{e^+}^2v_{e^+}^2}{2m_d} [/tex]

where i used momentum conservation to substitute for [itex]v_d[/itex], I'm not sure how to get the velocity of the positron or how to get rid of it in the equation.

I could substitute for the momentum using [itex]E^2=(pc)^2+(mc^2)^2[/itex] but that gives a quadratic, where i could take the larger solution for the total energy of the positron?
 
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Matt atkinson said:
I could substitute for the momentum using [itex]E^2=(pc)^2+(mc^2)^2[/itex] but that gives a quadratic, where i could take the larger solution for the total energy of the positron?
Right (I guess one solution will be negative anyway),
 
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Thank you, got a reasonable solution.

Im just curious do you think it would've been okay to say that the second term for the equation for [itex] E_{e^+} [/itex] would be much less than Q and therefore;

[tex] E_{e^+} \approx Q [/tex]

Because the actual solution i got was [itex] E_{e^+} = 2.199MeV[/itex]
 
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It is certainly a reasonable approximation if you don't care about keV precision, but then the question is too easy.
 
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Ah yes that makes sense always better to be precise when appropriate. Thank you for your help it was much appreciated :)
 

1. What is proton fusion?

Proton fusion, also known as hydrogen fusion, is a process in which two or more protons fuse together to form a heavier nucleus, releasing a large amount of energy in the process.

2. How does proton fusion occur?

Proton fusion occurs in the core of stars, where high temperatures and pressures cause hydrogen atoms to collide and fuse together, forming helium and releasing energy.

3. What is beta + decay?

Beta + decay, also known as positron emission, is a type of radioactive decay in which a proton in the nucleus of an atom transforms into a neutron, releasing a positron and a neutrino in the process.

4. How does beta + decay affect the atom?

Beta + decay results in a change in the atomic number of the atom, as a proton is converted into a neutron. This can potentially change the element, as elements are defined by the number of protons in their nucleus.

5. What are the implications of proton fusion and beta + decay?

Proton fusion is responsible for the energy output of stars, and is also being studied as a potential source of clean energy. Beta + decay is used in medical imaging and can also be harnessed for the production of radioisotopes used in medical treatments.

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