Proton in a plate capacitor: how far does it go?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a proton moving through a parallel plate capacitor. The scenario includes calculating the sideways deflection of the proton as it travels through the capacitor's electric field, given specific parameters such as the proton's speed and the surface charge densities of the plates.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the need to find the electric field within the capacitor and how it relates to the proton's acceleration. There are attempts to separate the motion into x and y components, akin to projectile motion, and questions about the appropriate formulas to use. Some participants express confusion about the application of formulas and seek clarification on the underlying concepts.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on finding the electric field and relating it to the force on the proton. There is an emphasis on understanding the formulas rather than just applying them. Multiple interpretations of the problem and approaches are being explored, indicating a productive dialogue.

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Participants mention specific values for the mass and charge of the proton, as well as the surface charge density, but there is uncertainty about how to integrate these into a coherent solution. The original poster expresses feeling lost and seeks clearer explanations.

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1. Homework Statement

A proton traveling at a speed of 7.22 *106m/s enter the gap between the plates of a 7.86 cm wide parallel plate capacitor. The surface charge densities on the plate are ± 4.98 *10-6 C/m2. How far (in m) has the proton deflected sideways when it reaches the far edge of the capacitor? Assume that the electric field is uniform inside the capacitor and zero outside.

2. Homework Equations

S= (1/2)*(E*q)/m*(d/v)^2 ?

3. The Attempt at a Solution

I just don't know what goes where or if I even have the right formula. I am truthfully lost. A classmate told me to use the above formula but didnt explain it. I got the concept he explained but lost the math. so what formula and how does it fit together?
 
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Can you find the electric field inside the capacitor? If so, can you find the acceleration of the electron? With the acceleration and the time the electron takes to transverse the capacitor, can you find distance deflected?
 
The proton travels along the length of the capacitor (x direction)with the given speed vx and is deflected by the electric field in the y direction. Like in case of projectile motion we can consider separately the motions along x and y: in the x direction it is uniform x=vxt , in the y direction the proton moves with uniform acceleration: y=1/2 *a *t^2.
You need t: but you know that x= 7.86*10-2 m and vx=7.22 *10^6 m/s.
You need the acceleration a. It is force/mass. How much is the force on a proton in an electric field E? You are given the surface charge of the capacitor. How is it related to the electric field strength? To get the force, you need the charge of proton. To get the acceleration, you need the mass of the proton. Both data are included in your textbook, or you can find them on the Net.

ehild
 
I'm still missing something. can you dumb it down more. do i use the formula my friend told me to use or do i ues another
mass proton: 1.6*10^-27
charge of proton: 1.6*10^-19 C
S= (0.5 E?*q?)/(1.6*10^-27((4.98 *10-6 C/m2)/(7.22 *106m/s))^2)
 
Do not use a formula without understanding it.

Try to answer my questions. I help a bit. The electric field E between the capacitor plates is equal to the surface charge density on the plates divided by the vacuum permittivity.



ehild
 

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