Prove C[0,1] is closed in B[0,1] (sup norm)

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The discussion revolves around proving that the set of continuous functions on the interval [0,1], denoted C[0,1], is closed in the space of bounded functions B[0,1] with respect to the supremum norm. Participants explore various approaches to understanding the properties of continuous and discontinuous functions within this metric space.

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  • One participant attempts to show that the set of discontinuous bounded functions is open by considering an arbitrary discontinuous function and constructing an open ball around it. Others suggest proving the closure of continuous functions by examining convergent sequences and their limits.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering insights into the nature of convergence in metric spaces. There is a mix of attempts to prove both directions of the closure property, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

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Some participants express uncertainty about convergence concepts and the implications of uniform convergence in the context of the supremum norm. There is a recognition of the need to clarify definitions and properties related to continuity and convergence in this metric space.

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So basically, my metric space X is the set of all bounded functions from [0,1] to the reals and the metric is defined as follows: d(f,g)=sup|f(x)-g(x)| where x belongs to [0,1].

I want to prove that the set of all discontinuous bounded functions, D[0,1] in X is open.

My attempt - Start with an arbitrary function h in D[0,1]. h is discontinuous.
=> There exists a point y in [0,1] and r>0 such that for all s>0
|f(x) - f(y)| > r when |x-y|< s

Now, Consider the open ball B(h,r/3). This is the set of all functions f such that |f-h| < r/3 in the entire interval. I want to show that all the functions in this ball are discontinuous at the point y!
 
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The easiest way here is actually to prove the statement in the title (that the set of continuous functions on [0,1] is closed). Use the fact that a set W is closed iff every convergent (wrt the relevant metric) sequence in W has limit in W.
 
Hi Oster!

Take |x-y|<s. You know that |h(x)-h(y)|>r, and you'll need to find something for |f(x)-f(y)|

See if you can do something with this:

r&lt;|h(x)-h(y)|=|(h(x)-f(x))+(f(x)-f(y))+(f(y)-h(y))|
 
I tried micromass' method and got it! [|f(x)-f(y)|>r/3 in (y-s,y+s)]
I'm not too comfortable with the convergence stuff. Sorry Gib Z. =(
Thanks to both of you anyway! =D
 
Well it can't hurt to see the other way, maybe it'll get you more used to it.

One of the most useful characterizations of a closed set is :

A set W is closed if and only if every convergent sequence in W has it's limit in W.

In R^n with the usual Euclidean metric, convergence you've seen before, it's the normal idea. In a general metric space (X,d) we say a sequence f_n converges to f if \displaystyle\lim_{n\to\infty} d(f_n, f) = 0.

So in this case, we have to show that every convergent sequence of continuous functions on [0,1] has it's limit in C[0,1]. The norm we have here through is the supremum norm, so convergence in the supremum norm is just the concept of uniform convergence. It is a well known fact (and easy to prove on your own) from real analysis that if a sequence of continuous functions converges uniformly, then its limit is also a continuous function, which suffices to show C[0,1] is closed with respect to this supremum metric.
 

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