Prove that as a function of x, y never decreases

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The discussion revolves around proving that the function y = A(x - sin(x)), where A is a positive constant, never decreases as a function of x. Participants are exploring the implications of the derivative dy/dx = A(1 - cos(x)) in relation to the behavior of the function.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • One participant differentiates the function and analyzes the conditions under which the derivative is less than zero, questioning if this approach is valid. Another participant suggests the use of the intermediate value theorem as a method of proof.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on the initial approach and clarifying the condition that A must be greater than zero for the argument to hold. There is acknowledgment of the reasoning presented, but no explicit consensus has been reached.

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There is a mention of A being a combination of physical constants, which may influence the interpretation of the problem. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their proof skills, indicating a potential gap in confidence regarding the material.

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Homework Statement


y= A(x-sin(x)) with A as a constant.

Homework Equations


dy/dx = A(1-cos(x)) ??

The Attempt at a Solution


If I am thinking about this correctly, one can just differentiate the function as I have, and argue that when the gradient (dy/dx) is less than zero, the function is decreasing. So from this:

A(1-cos(x))<0
so 1-cos(x)<0

cos(x)>1
which never happens for any x, including negative x since cos is an even function.

Is this the right way of doing this? I'm very rusty on proofs etc.

Thanks in advance!
 
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That works, and you can prove it with the intermediate value theorem.
 
Thank you very much indeed!
 
Poirot said:

Homework Statement


y= A(x-sin(x)) with A as a constant.

Homework Equations


dy/dx = A(1-cos(x)) ??

The Attempt at a Solution


If I am thinking about this correctly, one can just differentiate the function as I have, and argue that when the gradient (dy/dx) is less than zero, the function is decreasing. So from this:

A(1-cos(x))<0
so 1-cos(x)<0

cos(x)>1
which never happens for any x, including negative x since cos is an even function.

Is this the right way of doing this? I'm very rusty on proofs etc.

Thanks in advance!

Your conclusion is correct only if ##A >0##, which you did not state.
 
Yeah sorry A is greater than zero, It's a combination of physical constants found earlier in the question.
 

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