Prove that the angular momentum operator is hermitian

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The discussion revolves around proving that the angular momentum operator is hermitian, focusing on the mathematical properties of the operator and the implications of taking the hermitian conjugate. The scope includes theoretical reasoning and mathematical justification.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the angular momentum operator as \(\vec{L}=\vec{r}\times\vec{p}\) and attempts to show its hermitian nature by taking the hermitian conjugate.
  • Another participant points out that reversing the order of the operators in the cross product should introduce a minus sign, which was not accounted for in the original derivation.
  • A participant expresses concern about how to denote the reversal of operator order in vector notation without reversing the arguments of the cross product, indicating a need for clarity in notation.
  • It is noted that the general property of the hermitian conjugate for cross products is that \((\vec{A} \times \vec{B})^\dagger = -\vec{B}^\dagger \times \vec{A}^\dagger\).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the correct approach to denote the reversal of operators in the context of the cross product, and there is an ongoing discussion about the implications of the hermitian conjugate properties.

Contextual Notes

There is a potential misunderstanding regarding the notation and properties of the cross product when dealing with hermitian operators, which may affect the clarity of the argument presented.

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Greetings,

My task is to prove that the angular momentum operator is hermitian. I started out as follows:

[itex]\vec{L}=\vec{r}\times\vec{p}[/itex]

Where the above quantities are vector operators. Taking the hermitian conjugate yields

[itex]\vec{L''}=\vec{p''}\times\vec{r''}[/itex]

Here I have used double quotes to represent that the hermitian conjugate of the corresponding quantity.

[itex]\vec{L''}=\vec{p}\times\vec{r}[/itex]

Here the fact that the momentum and position are hermitian operators were used. However
[itex]\vec{L''}=\vec{p}\times\vec{r}=-\vec{r}\times\vec{p}=-\vec{L}[[/itex]

There has to be a flaw somewhere but I was not able to catch it, though I was able to prove that the angular momentum operator is hermitian when inspected component by component. I am yet to understand the error in the above derivation. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks in advance
 
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L′′ = p′′ × r′′

The Hermitian conjugate reverses the operator order, but you've also reversed the order of the arguments to the cross product, which should bring in a minus sign.
 
Thanks for the reply. So as far as I am concerned you tell me that reversing the arguments of the cross product is superfluous. But how can I denote that I have reversed the orders of the operators without doing that? My point is to demonstrate that I have reversed the order of operators in vector notation.
 
Septim said:
Thanks for the reply. So as far as I am concerned you tell me that reversing the arguments of the cross product is superfluous. But how can I denote that I have reversed the orders of the operators without doing that? My point is to demonstrate that I have reversed the order of operators in vector notation.

In general, if [itex]\vec{A}[/itex] and [itex]\vec{B}[/itex] are operators, then [itex](\vec{A} \times \vec{B})^\dagger = - \vec{B}^\dagger \times \vec{A}^\dagger[/itex]
 

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