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Problem:
Let A, V, and C be any nonempty sets. Prove or disprove the following:
|A \times C| \leq |(A \times B) \times C|
Proof:
Fix b \in B.
Set f(a,c) = ((a,b),c) for a \in A and c \in C.
Now suppose f(a_{1}, c_{1}) = f(a_{2}, c_{2}).
Thus, f(a_{1}, c_{1}) = ((a_{1}, b), c_{1}) = ((a_{2}, b), c_{2}) = f(a_{2}, c_{2})
Thus, (a_{1}, c_{1}) = (a_{2}, c_{2}) since the corresponding ordered triples are equal.
Thus, (a_{1}) = (a_{2}), and (c_{1}) = (c_{2}), since the ordered pairs above are equal.
Thus, f is one to one.
Finally, |A \times C| \leq |(A \times B) \times C|, (by definition of one to one functions).
Questions:
I understand this proof and why b\inB is fixed, but to prove |A \times C| \leq |(A \times B) \times C|, it is not necessary to state to fix b. Since b can be any value in the triple order, it doesn't have to be fixed, in fact it can hold any value from the set B and still fulfill the condition: |A \times C| \leq |(A \times B) \times C|. If what I am saying is true, is there an easy modification of the proof above? Personally I think by fixing b, we are limiting the scope of the proof.
Thanks,
JL
Let A, V, and C be any nonempty sets. Prove or disprove the following:
|A \times C| \leq |(A \times B) \times C|
Proof:
Fix b \in B.
Set f(a,c) = ((a,b),c) for a \in A and c \in C.
Now suppose f(a_{1}, c_{1}) = f(a_{2}, c_{2}).
Thus, f(a_{1}, c_{1}) = ((a_{1}, b), c_{1}) = ((a_{2}, b), c_{2}) = f(a_{2}, c_{2})
Thus, (a_{1}, c_{1}) = (a_{2}, c_{2}) since the corresponding ordered triples are equal.
Thus, (a_{1}) = (a_{2}), and (c_{1}) = (c_{2}), since the ordered pairs above are equal.
Thus, f is one to one.
Finally, |A \times C| \leq |(A \times B) \times C|, (by definition of one to one functions).
Questions:
I understand this proof and why b\inB is fixed, but to prove |A \times C| \leq |(A \times B) \times C|, it is not necessary to state to fix b. Since b can be any value in the triple order, it doesn't have to be fixed, in fact it can hold any value from the set B and still fulfill the condition: |A \times C| \leq |(A \times B) \times C|. If what I am saying is true, is there an easy modification of the proof above? Personally I think by fixing b, we are limiting the scope of the proof.
Thanks,
JL
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