Proving Characteristics of Projections

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The discussion revolves around the characteristics of projections of polynomials onto the xy-plane, specifically questioning whether such projections yield polynomials. The original poster seeks a trivial proof for this assertion, leading to clarifications about the definitions involved.

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  • Participants explore the definition of polynomials and their projections, with some questioning the original poster's terminology. There are attempts to clarify the nature of projections and the implications of evaluating polynomials at specific coordinates.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's interpretations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of polynomial paths in three dimensions and their projections, but there is no consensus on the original question.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the definitions of projections and the geometric interpretations of polynomials, as well as the distinction between different types of projections (e.g., onto the xy-plane versus evaluating at z=0).

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Can anyone think of a trivial proof for the fact that the projection of any polynomial onto the xy-plane itself gives a polynomial? My professor and I were speculating about this, but could not discover a trivial proof for the fact. Does such a thing exist?
 
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First, it would help if you would explain what you are talking about. A "polynomial" is not a geometric figure and so has no "projection". Do you mean the graph of a polynomial in x, y, and z.
 
Yes, that's exactly what I meant.
 
I am not sure I understand: you have , I guess, a polynomial P(x,y,z) . Then evaluate P(x,y,0). This is a polynomial in (x,y).
 
But a projection onto the xy-plane isn't the same as letting the z-coordinate equal zero. It may even be that the polynomial doesn't intersect with the xy-plane.
 
I'm sorry, it may be just me, but I'm not sure I understand your layout. Maybe a formal definition and/or some examples may help, if you could provide them. I understand, e.g., the projection of the unit sphere x2+y2+z=1 into the xy-plane to be the circle x2+y2=1 , but I don't understand well what you're doing.
 
No, the projection of the unit sphere, [itex]x^2+ y^2+ z^2= 1[/itex] onto the xy-plane is NOT the circle, [itex]x^2+ y^2= 1[/itex]. It is the disk [itex]x^2+ y^2\le 1[/itex]. That is NOT a polynomial function, it is not even a function.

The only interpretation I can put on this, so that it is true, is that a polynomial path in three dimensions, given by parametric equations, x= p(t), y= q(t), z= r(t), where p, q, and r are polynomials, projected to the xy-plane, which would indeed be x= p(t), y= q(t), z= 0, is a polynomial path in the xy-plane since p and q are still polynomials.
 
Yes, my bad, H of Ivy, i was obviously wrong, I was thinking about something else, also trying to make sense of the OP.
 

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