Proving Inequality with Cosine Rule and Schwartz Proof

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The discussion centers on proving the inequality -1 < (a.b)/(||a|| ||b||) < 1 using both the cosine rule and the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality. The cosine rule relates the dot product to the cosine of the angle between vectors, but the teacher's use of the Cauchy-Schwarz proof is emphasized as a more general approach. Clarification is sought on why the cosine rule may not suffice and how to effectively apply the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality. The participants note that the cosine function is bounded between -1 and 1, which aligns with the desired proof. Understanding the definitions and the context of the proofs is crucial for grasping the underlying concepts.
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Hi, i was required to show that

-1 < \frac{a.b}{\|{a}\|\|{b}\|}} > -1

I did this by using the cosine rule which is c^2 = a^2 + b^2 - 2a.b\cos{\vartheta}

How ever our teacher did it by a scharts proof which i don't quite understand, :mad: , Now my question is why can't i prove it using the cosine rule and could somebody explain the schwartz proof a bit better?
 
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What is going on with your inequality. It looks like you have -1 < something > -1. Why not just say that -1 < something. Also, how are you defining a.b? Is it the regular dot product a.b = |a||b|cos(theta)? If so, then this just says cos(theta) > -1 which is false, it may be -1 (if theta = pi).
 
SeReNiTy said:
Hi, i was required to show that

-1 < \frac{a.b}{\|{a}\|\|{b}\|}} > -1

I did this by using the cosine rule which is c^2 = a^2 + b^2 - 2a.b\cos{\vartheta}

How ever our teacher did it by a scharts proof which i don't quite understand, :mad: , Now my question is why can't i prove it using the cosine rule and could somebody explain the schwartz proof a bit better?
Has your teacher defined the angle between two vectors to be the arccosine of your expression, or is he using the inequality 1 > \frac{a.b}{\|{a}\|\|{b}\|}} > -1 to motivate such a definition for general vector spaces (not just Euclidean space) ? In the latter case, it is understandable that he does not equate it with what he is trying to motivate yet.
 
yes the inequality is suppose to be -1< something < 1

Also I'm suppose to prove that the expression \frac{a.b}{\|{a}\|\|{b}\|}}
lies within the domain [-1,1]

I did this using the cosine rule because cos(theta) is within that domain, how do i do it with the schwartz proof?
 
Schwarz's Inequality states that (a.b)² < (a.a)(b.b) does it not? And you've defined the norm by |a|² = a.a, right? You're really not asking the question right because you haven't shown your work, you haven't shown what you know, etc. Anyways, assuming that you have the above inequality (Schwarz's) and definition (of norm) to work with, isn't it obvious?
 
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