Proving LS=RS in Trigonometry?

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The discussion focuses on proving the equality of the left-hand side (LHS) and right-hand side (RHS) of a trigonometric identity. Participants emphasize the importance of working independently on each side rather than manipulating both simultaneously, as this could lead to incorrect assumptions. They suggest using Pythagorean identities and factoring to simplify expressions instead of expanding them. There is also mention of addressing specific identities and reducing powers using half-angle formulas. The conversation highlights the challenges of proving trigonometric identities and the strategies to approach them effectively.
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Prove that LS=RS.

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if LHS=RHS, then:

(\cos x-\sin y)(\cos x+\sin y)=(\cos y+\sin x)(\cos y-\sin x)

... right?
So why not expand it out and look for the usual identities?
 
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Simon Bridge said:
if LHS=RHS, then:

(\cos x-\sin y)(\cos x+\sin y)=(\cos y+\sin x)(\cos x-\sin y)

... right?
So why not expand it out and look for the usual identities?

According to my teacher/school (I'm from Ontario), you're not allowed to work on both sides like that. You have to work on each side independent from the other. Why? I have no idea why... :(

edit: My teacher says you can't do that, because we don't know if LS=RS. We're trying to see if LS=RS by proving it.
 
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4701/daumequation13237312394.png

That's another identity I'm having trouble with. I have no idea how to change the exponents from 4 to 2. I'm totally lost with this one. I can't even think of a first step.
 
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Regarding your first post in this thread: do NOT multiply out the numerators. Leave them in factored form. So you have this:
\frac{(\cos x - \sin y)(\cos y + \sin x)}{cos^2 y - sin^2 x}
Now use the Pythagorean identities to rewrite BOTH terms in the denominator.

If you figure this out, you'll probably ask, how did I know NOT to multiply out the numerator? I noticed that when you multiplied top and bottom by (cos y + sin x), that is also the numerator of the RHS. You'll see what happens by leaving the numerator in factored form.
 
tahayassen said:
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4701/daumequation13237312394.png

That's another identity I'm having trouble with. I have no idea how to change the exponents from 4 to 2. I'm totally lost with this one. I can't even think of a first step.
Note that on the LHS,
sin2 x + cos4 x = sin2 x + (cos2 x)2
Use the Pythagorean identity for what's inside the parentheses and see what happens.
 
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eumyang said:
Regarding your first post in this thread: do NOT multiply out the numerators. Leave them in factored form. So you have this:
\frac{(\cos x - \sin y)(\cos y + \sin x)}{cos^2 y - sin^2 x}
Now use the Pythagorean identities to rewrite BOTH terms in the denominator.

If you figure this out, you'll probably ask, how did I know NOT to multiply out the numerator? I noticed that when you multiplied top and bottom by (cos y + sin x), that is also the numerator of the RHS. You'll see what happens by leaving the numerator in factored form.

Amazing! I feel so happy solving these. After that, I noticed that the denominator was a difference of square, and I canceled out the factors.
 
eumyang said:
Note that on the LHS,
sin2 x + cos4 x = sin2 x + (cos2 x)2
Use the Pythagorean identity for what's inside the parentheses and see what happens.

Haha. I got this identity too! Thanks!

The interesting part about this one is that when I wrote it down on paper, I couldn't solve it. It wasn't until I was inputting into my equation editor to generate the images did I realize what I missed earlier.
 
If LHS=RHS then I can propose (what I did) - and attempt to disprove it. If the proposition is false, then surely the equation will yield an inconsistency like 2=3? Of course, not all will reduce easily.

You could then start by putting both sides over a common denominator ... then you only have to prove the numerators are the same. This will be mathematically equivalent to the above approach.

On the other one - without looking: you can reduce the power by using the half-angles.

[ah - beat me to it]
 

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